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Second attempt to get through the mailing system....
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From: denis walker <ripede...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Sascha Luck [ml] <d...@c4inet.net>
Cc: Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2017, 19:40
Subject: Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?
Hi Sascha, all
I see this as a real possibility for the longer term. But realistically it is
not going to help with the situation in the near future. I see some think that
RADB is already a 'central DB' whereas others in this thread have said they
would not use RADB (don't know it that is for technical, political or
reliability issues).
Just to throw a wild idea into the pot on this. If we were to look into the
possibility of a centralised database, at least for the three RIRs who use a
common database root RIPE, APNIC, Afrinic, then to me it makes sense to have a
common, public database for operational data not only for routing information
but also for number resource information. Then such a common database could do
proper authentication. Almost certainly the personal data referenced by the
operational data would need to remain in separate regional databases for
privacy and data protection reasons. From the point of view of managing
globally unique resources it makes perfect sense. But I suspect there would be
lots of opposition to such a suggestion for political and self preservation
reasons from many directions.
Bearing in mind that any such suggestion would takes years from an idea to
reality, I don't think we should get too bogged down in discussing this as part
of this thread. However, several people have mentioned the idea of proper
management of global resources. So perhaps if someone feels the desire to raise
the issue in Dubai and formally call for the start of a serious investigation
process that could lead to a common operational database, then the ball will at
least start rolling....
cheersdenisco-chair DB WG
From: Sascha Luck [ml] via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net>
To: denis walker <ripede...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Database WG <db-wg@ripe.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2017, 16:21
Subject: Re: [db-wg] Foreign ROUTE objects in RIPE Database - final decision?
On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 02:49:39PM +0100, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
> Question - Should the RIPE Database allow creation of ROUTE objects for non
> RIPE resources?
Is an option D: create a central IRRDB with authentication hooks
into all RIRs completely out of the question? It certainly sounds
like the technologically most elegant answer. Modulo legacy
resources, no unauthenticated irrdb objects should then have to
exist. The trust root could be shared between the RIRs as is
seemingly done with RPKI these days...
cheers,
Sascha Luck
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