Hi, I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
Cheers, Alun On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:52, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent > to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you. > > Cheers, > Alun > > On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:51, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent > to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you. > > Cheers, > Alun > > On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:42, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent > to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you. > > Cheers, > Alun > > On 29 Jul 2022, at 11:22, denis walker via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi Massimo > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 04:11, Massimo Candela via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > On 28/07/2022 15:52, Randy Bush via db-wg wrote: > and, being a researcher, i have no clue about > this research spin at all. > > > I also don't understand where the research context is coming from. > Usually, researchers don't have the need to correct the geolocation of > so many prefixes to require something like geofeeds. > > > I think this was an attempt by the legal team to find some way to > justify having the "geofeed:" attribute based on the current defined > purposes. > > > And I really don't understand why the geofeed attribute would not be > covered by the current purpose of the RIPE database, as described in the > article 3. > > Geofeed matches "Facilitating coordination between network operators > (network problem resolution, outage notification etc.)" > > Geofeed wants to correct geolocation problems. The geofeed attribute is > exactly a way to "coordinate between network operators" (with, or > without, the intermediation of geolocation providers). Geolocation > problems impact the availability/performance of content/services. The > medium is the network. Geolocation problems are network problems. > > No, "geofeed:" is not covered by this purpose. It may be provided by > network operators but it is not 'used' by them. It has nothing to do > with 'network problem resolution, outage notification etc'. It is, as > I suggested, data that is used by external services. As are all the > other items I mentioned in that list. > > > > On 28/07/2022 16:58, Laurent Pellegrino via db-wg wrote: > > It's sad to see real solutions around geolocation (which helps users > in many ways) overthought and killed in the eggs. > > In general, the solution has not been killed. > > It would have been nice to have a neat "geofeed" attribute. However, > geofeeds are successfully used with remarks in LACNIC, APNIC, AFRINIC, > and RIPE. Comments are used in ARIN. > > Add a remark/comment "Geofeed https://url-to-my-file"; and you are good > to go. At the moment most of the data is produced with this approach anyway. > > This is not the way to go. We should never accept the overloading of a > free text attribute with structured data as a solution to any problem. > Let's fix the core problem and bring the purposes into line with the > contents and usage of the database. > > cheers > denis > co-chair DB-WG > > > Ciao, > Massimo > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg
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