Hi,

I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent to 
l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.

Cheers,
Alun

On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:55, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:53, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:51, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:46, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 28 Jul 2022, at 13:33, Maria Stafyla via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> Following the legal update we provided on NWI-13: Geofeed at the DB WG 
> session at RIPE 84, here is our analysis in case further discussion on this 
> topic is needed.
> 
> 
> Executive Summary:
> -       The RIPE Database is meant to contain specific information for its 
> documented purposes.
> -       Information inserted in the geofeed attribute could in some cases 
> qualify as personal data.
> -       The current purposes could explain geolocation information to be 
> inserted only for ‘scientific research into network operations and topology’.
> -       This purpose does not justify the processing of personal data; 
> therefore restrictions had to be put in place to avoid the processing of 
> unnecessary personal data.
> -       The restrictions are now implemented based on the status of the 
> registration.
> -       If the purposes of the RIPE Database have changed in the meantime, 
> this should be established via the community processes and documented. In 
> that case we will re-evaluate the situation and the need for restrictions. 
> Until then, the restrictions remain necessary.
> 
> Legal Analysis:
> The RIPE Database is meant to contain specific information for the purposes 
> that are defined in the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions.
> In terms of the _personal data_ inserted in there, the purpose that justifies 
> its publication is to facilitate the coordination of network operations for 
> the smooth and uninterrupted operation of Internet; this purpose explains why 
> contact details of resource holders or their appointed contact persons are 
> required. 
> Before any new type of personal data is permitted to be inserted in the RIPE 
> Database, we must evaluate if their processing is required for the purposes 
> already defined and their processing can be considered in line with the basic 
> personal data processing principles.
> Although it is the responsibility of the party inserting personal data to 
> ensure that they have the appropriate legal grounds before doing so, the RIPE 
> NCC has also shared responsibilities with regards to the personal data in the 
> RIPE Database. This is because the RIPE NCC is the party that is making the 
> RIPE Database available and implements the instructions given by the RIPE 
> community.
> As mentioned in the Legal Review Impact Analysis, if the geofeed attribute is 
> inserted for registrations of assignments that are reasonably assumed to be 
> related to one individual user, then the attribute will be considered as 
> containing personal data and GDPR will apply. This is why we have proposed to 
> implement restrictions.
> These restrictions are essential to avoid any processing of personal data 
> that is not required or necessary for the currently defined purposes of the 
> RIPE Database and to limit the RIPE NCC's liability as a party with shared 
> responsibilities in relation to the personal data inserted in the RIPE 
> Database. 
> Regarding the _(non-personal) data _inserted in the RIPE Database, it is also 
> paramount that only data that is needed for the defined purposes of the RIPE 
> Database is inserted.
> According to the RIPE Database Terms and Conditions, introducing the geofeed 
> attribute (with restrictions) would be considered in line and acceptable to 
> be used only for scientific research into network operations and topology 
> (see Art. 3).
> We also understand that the purposes the RIPE Database must fulfil are not 
> static but evolve over time.
> The RIPE Database Requirements Task Force has recently concluded its work 
> and, with regard to geolocation, it has established that, although there is 
> an active user group for geolocation data, geolocation itself is not an 
> objective that the RIPE Database should fulfil.
> If the community's interests have changed since then and it is now agreed 
> that geolocation is one of the purposes the RIPE Database must fulfil, this 
> should be decided via the community's processes and reflected in the RIPE 
> Database Terms and Conditions. 
> In line with the data management principles proposed by the RIPE Database 
> Requirements Task Force, it would be prudent to approach this issue 
> holistically, taking into account that other geolocation information is 
> already provided in the RIPE Database (i.e. geoloc, country code attributes 
> in ORG and resource objects). 
> On the basis of a new purpose for the geolocation information, we could then 
> reassess the situation to understand whether the restrictions on the geofeed 
> attribute are still necessary or whether it is justified to process personal 
> data for this purpose.
> Kind regards,
> 
> Maria Stafyla
> Senior Legal Counsel
> RIPE NCC
> 
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