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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar  9 08:21:02 -0800 
2005 -------
MAV->MSC: More specific criticism would be much more helpful. At the current
state I still do not see why is the design so bad.

MAV->FS: It is not just about the technical part. This is a logic of embedded
object behaviour that in result affects user.

An embedded object consists from replacement representation it provides to a
container and own contents ( the replacement representation might be optional ).
If somebody activates starwriter embedded object inplace, scrolls down and
deactivates the object, the replacement image should reflect the changes, the
embedded document should store those changes so that the next time user
activates it the correct place of the document is shown. The same is true for
outplace activation. For objects that support inplace activation it seems to be
the only reasonable way.

The only alternative in object behaviour that I see is acceptable only for
outplace activation. In this case object document is always activated in
specific hardcoded scrolling position and the replacement image is always
generated only for this position. In this case the scrolling position is no more
a part of the embedded document information, so the scrolling does not change
the modified state of the object.

Although technically it is no big problem to implement triggering of the second
behaviour for embedded objects, from my point of view the second way brings no
benefit, moreover, it contains only minuses:
- It is not possible for user to let the object be activated at a specific
position next time. For database it is even more valuable loss since by changing
of the scrolling position in 'edit' mode user could specify the way the form is
opened in 'open' mode, of course the scrolling in 'open' mode can not set the
modified flag since the object is readonly.
- ( questionable ) As I understand the left bottom window in the database
component is designed to show form preview ( at least it was used for this
reason sometimes ago ), means embedded object replacement image, if this feature
is going to be activated then the previous entry becomes even more valuable.

I just wanted to clarify my position since this change seems to be questionable
for me even from user point of view. But as I have mentioned, if database
requires the second way behaviour for forms, it should be no big problem from
technical point of view.


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