Let me clarify (at the risk of going up in flames) prior to ending the
thread.
The client in question has 3 "developers" who toute thier knowledge of
ASP, and are esentially using Ftontpage and other MS based apps to
deliver thier web based solution. For some reason they have an
inkling of PHP, and the customer was convinced to place the site on a
FreeBSD/Apache platform. The PHP was enough for them to chew on
without going into the bowels of shell and Perl programming. They
wish to have thier "developers" manage the solution after the fact,
and as such have to keep them in mind when providing the solution.
I would assume from hearing these individuals talk that what is being
taught these days is the wonders of ASP, Flash and other "glitz and
glamour" which they assume makes a good developer... perhaps a web
developer, but IMO that term is being applied to every idiot with a
copy of Frontpage.
My place is to provide the solution the customer wants, and bill
accordingly, not preach to them on the quality of thier staff or thier
hiring process.
The statement did require clarification, I am not saying Perl is dead
(no more than I am saying shell scripting is dead), more in referring
to the focus of new individuals into the field.
In closure, I redesigned the entire module using Perl:DBI and
commented the crap out of it. Anyone with a good understanding of
english can reasonably hack at it to get the desired results.
Cheers.
Dave
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:27 AM
>To: 'Curt Russell Crandall '; 'Dave VanAuken '
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
>Subject: RE: running php script from withing file to get variables
>
>
>>like it or not, not many do the Perl thing any more
>
>Who are you refering to by **many**. You have statistics?
>Perl powers more
>web sites/servers than any other language. You just don't
>hear about it as
>much since it's an open source technology and they don't
>have the money,
>will, and reason to advertise it in commercial magazines and
>tv commercials.
>I can't disclose, but I work for one of the "Big Three",
>(for those who
>don't know Ford/GM/Chrysler) and over 90 percent of all intranet
>applications (and there are thousands) and internet
>applications are written
>in Perl. Java does not even account for 1% of all
>development. See way
>more .cgi scripts all over the web then .php3|4, .jsp, .asp, etc...
>
>Ilya Sterin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Curt Russell Crandall
>To: Dave VanAuken
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 05/11/2001 8:53 AM
>Subject: RE: running php script from withing file to get variables
>
>>
>> 2) documentation (saves me explaining PHP AND Perl:DBI in the
>> emergency documentation should I keel over and die
>tomorrow and take
>> the Perl:DBI knowledge with me. like it or not, not many
>do the Perl
>> thing any more)
>>
>
>Huh? Are you just talking about at your own shop... I know very few
>people who write PHP any longer and far many more who still
>"do the Perl
>thing", personally.
>I totally agree with Brett, I would just write it all in
>Perl and forget
>about mixing the 2 languages... unless of course someone over you
>dictates
>something else.
>
>
