But then when you try to read an email that has been replied to 6 times, you
must fussing with 6 footers:-) That can't be fun.
Ilya Sterin
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6/6/01 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: I want to unsuscribe
This keeps drifting farther and farther off-topic, but....
If the information from the headers were transfered to a small footer
appended to each message, you would be moving the "500 bytes" rather
than
increasing the overall message size. And the information would be
accessible to everyone and not just those who use email clients that
don't
obfuscate the useful headers.
Like others on the list, I host several mailing lists and I don't see
nearly
the number of please-unsubscribe-me messages as I do here, even when
scaled
for size.
As an aside, could the original author's problem be that he appears to
be
omiting the 'b' from "unsubscribe"?
--G
-----Original Message-----
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 14:54
To: 'Sean Cooper '; 'Stephen Clouse '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Cc: 'John Reid '; 'Wilson, Doug '
Subject: RE: I want to unsuscribe
I agree with Stephen. I definitelly don't want my space wasted with 500
extra bytes of junk for each email, not that people don't have
sufficient
space or that it's expensive these days (dirt cheap), this is a
professional
list, not a [EMAIL PROTECTED], where these people need to be
told every detail 50 times. I've personally replied to about 20 emails
in
the past month or so telling them that they need to unsubscribe by
sending
emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED], just to receive another reply
in
10 minutes asking to unsubscribe again:-)
I personally like that we don't have any footers, since when the thread
gets
preatty big, people replying will be reproducing this footer 50 times
and
making it hard to read the replies.
Ilya Sterin
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Cooper
To: Stephen Clouse; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: John Reid; Wilson, Doug
Sent: 6/6/01 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: I want to unsuscribe
Importance: High
Steven --
I admit that 99.9% (100%) of all computer errors are user generated in
some way,
but don't you think that
it would improve the usabiity of the list ?
The problem is that these people who are disinterested and throw away
the manual
create OT traffic on the
list, making it 'noisy' for those of us who are interesetd and read the
manuals.
I'm sure that
a simple friendly reminder isn't anything that would take up that much
space,
and you'd
certainly save the server resources compared to the space to hold
numerous "stop
the world I wanna get off"
messages ;-)
I also know that it's in the headers, but even my headers are minimized;
they
are hard to find for some folks.
I guess All I'm asking is that you reconsider your decision.
Best
Sean Cooper
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stephen Clouse wrote:
>
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> On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 05:07:42PM +0100, John Reid wrote:
> > Mind you the old list manager inserted a footer to every mail with
> > instructions on just how to do this. This seems to have gone now.
Perhaps it
> > could be reintroduced?
>
> Waste of bandwidth. Trust me, I run multiple mailing lists elsewhere.
A person
> who didn't bother to keep the signup instructions also selectively
ignores those
> footer messages. Proceeding even further down the spiral, I've seen
more than
> one person reply "HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST" -- to a message from
myself
> outlining the unsubscribe instructions for another hapless user.
>
> I have little sympathy or respect for these people. I have yet to see
a list
> that doesn't send you a message upon subscribe containing the
unsubscribe
> instructions, along with a big all-caps note saying "PLEASE KEEP THIS
FOR YOUR
> FUTURE REFERENCE". These people probably throw away instruction
booklets on
> household appliances, too.
>
> - --
> Stephen Clouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Senior Programmer, IQ Coordinator Project Lead
> The IQ Group, Inc. <http://www.theiqgroup.com/>
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