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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Colin Wetherbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Webster Wood wrote:
> >
> > > You shouldn't really need to go recursing through a data tree to
> > > come up with all the parts of a single fact.
> > >
> >
> > Well that is unless you are wanting to inherit data from linked
> > elements further up a link list without re-posting redundant
> > information.
> >
>
> That's true enough in your situation, but then you trade speed against data
> size.  I suspect traversing a data hierarchy inside a database, with SQL
> alone, won't be too pleasant when it comes to performance.
>
>
> >
> > > Then, instead of storing property description text separately in
> > > your categories and categoryLinks tables, have a foreign key
> > > reference the id column in the property table.
> > >
> >
> >
> > > In addition, I'd get rid of your categoryLinks table altogether.
> > >
> >
> > Think like an object oriented programmer for a second.  The
> > individual entries in the main Categories table and the individual
> > items tables are 'definitions' of that particular 'object' with some
> > 'default' values filled in.  The additional (seemingly redundant)
> > entries on the link table allow the link to 'override' the default
> > value(s) with local, instance specific ones.  My goal was as a
> > time/work saving measure (from the administration perspective) to
> > allow 'children' elements to have blank entries where the values
> > would get inherited down from parents.
> >
>
> That makes sense.  I haven't delved into the object-relational properties of
> databases, but I wonder if that kind of inheritance is easier to achieve
> than it seems?
>
>
> > Besides, my keywords are working nicely, I was just curious about SQL
> > and if there was any conditional recursive looping in the various
> > scripting syntax.  (what is the plural of syntax?  synti?)
> >
>
> If the object-relational thing works out, you may not have to worry about
> recursion.  I'd suggest investigating that route.
>
> If all else fails and you still want to keep these operations inside the
> database, stored procedures are great for that sort of thing.  I write
> utility and analysis functions in PostgreSQL's PL/Perl all the time, and I
> expect it would be much easier to traverse a hierarchy if you were able to
> do so in a language like that instead of in SQL.
>
> As for the plural of "syntax", I don't think there is one, but it's likely
> possible to pluralize etymologically ancestral versions of it. :)
>
> Colin
>



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Matthew O. Persico

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