Hi "good" to hear that i am not the only one, not because it's good for you, but because it may make it easier to debug and now we now it is not only POP3
BTW: i moved another message which did show only some headers of our spam-firewall instead the body to Paul's testserver and mailed him offlist too with two screenshots while the second one shows that Thunderbird suddenly displayed the wrong test-message on his testserver until repair folder my colleague which is most time affected swears that he did not have this problem all the last 12 years and this started since the mailserver update :-( Regards Harry Am 20.08.2013 13:54, schrieb Harald Leithner: > Today I ask some customers if they get Mails with empty body, for my surprise > they get sometimes Mails with no body. > Mail.App and IOS both with IMAP so the Problem is not POP3 Only. > > Am 20.08.2013, 13:50 Uhr, schrieb Reindl Harald <[email protected]>: > >> looks like POP3 only and only the desktop App >> >> the pervert is if you login with IMAP move the affected message to >> a different folder and back to Inbox to let it appear as new mail >> for POP3 it has a body >> >> as well we compared fetch a this way cloned message with the >> original one from the day before diff did not show any difference >> except the ID >> >> hence the Apple clients are generally crap >> not only once seen problems of customers display random messages >> with IMAP and Roundcubemail or Thunderbird had no problem >> >> Am 20.08.2013 13:18, schrieb Joel van Velden: >>> I've not been following this Apple mail bug issue (body empty) as it hasn't >>> affected me yet. >>> I'd like to keep ahead of any possible customers complaints that may come >>> to me. Does this bug apply to Apple Mac >>> OSX mail.app with POP3 only? So not on iOS devices and not with IMAP? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Joel van Velden >>> >>> On 20/08/2013 2:50 a.m., Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> Am 19.08.2013 16:44, schrieb Paul J Stevens: >>>>> On 19-08-13 14:37, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> this is really mysterious because we debugged POP3 last >>>>>> week with a untouched message and a copy made via IMAP >>>>>> and both message with POP3 in a ncat-session are 100% >>>>>> identical............ >>>>> Since: >>>>> >>>>> I have no way to reproduce this myself, >>>>> It appears to be a generic problem for Apple users, with more >>>>> mail-servers [1] >>>> Apple mail clients are very "special" to not use bad words >>>> and how Apple deals with critism is well known >>>> >>>>>>> Apple removed your post titled "Dear Apple: >>>>>>> your mail-clients are broken" because it contained the following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Non-constructive rants or complaints >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>> Apple Support Communities Staff >>>>> I'm not at all convinced there's anything I can do about it >>>> clear since it is imposible do debug >>>> >>>> the strange thing is that this did not happen before 3.1 >>>> and affects a user and mostly a large customer as sender >>>> wich is not new in this combination >>>> >>>>> I'm not going to post-pone 3.1.3 nor 3.2.0 for this particular issue. >>>> that's clear, 3.1.2 has the same issue >>>> >>>>> sorry >>>> no problem
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