On 1/29/13 3:11 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
Hi Kingsley,

Because we got a couple of similar mails some time ago,
do you think that we should mention this in the DBpedia wiki as a disclaimer somewhere?
(like here for instance http://wiki.dbpedia.org/OnlineAccess)

Maybe.

I thought we had a document explaining how the SPARQL endpoint is protected so that it serves everyone, within reason. I know in the past I've dropped notes about the use of OFFSET and LIMIT as a mechanism for paging through the data etc..

We've also made it clear, many a time, that we have DBpedia and the LOD Cloud cache instances that provide SPARQL access to the same data. The LOD cloud cache instance in on a bigger setup (and so it can handle more expensive operations that arise from concurrent access across the Web etc..

Kingsley

Best,
Dimitris


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>> wrote:

    On 1/28/13 4:26 PM, Andrea Di Menna wrote:
    Thanks Kingsley.

    Is the same reason why all the resources are not listed in the
    http://dbpedia.org/page/G%C3%BCtersloh page as reverse
    dbpedia-owl:birthPlace property?

    Yes, since this URL will give varying results, subject what other
    connections to doing with the DBMS:
    
http://dbpedia.org/sparql?default-graph-uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org&query=prefix+dbpedia-owl%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2F%3E%0D%0Aselect+%3Fs+where+%7B%3Fs+dbpedia-owl%3AbirthPlace+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=0&debug=on

    Query Definition:
    
http://dbpedia.org/sparql?default-graph-uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org&qtxt=prefix+dbpedia-owl%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2F%3E%0D%0Aselect+%3Fs+where+%7B%3Fs+dbpedia-owl%3AbirthPlace+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=0&debug=on

    LOD Cloud:
    
http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql?default-graph-uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org&query=prefix+dbpedia-owl%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2F%3E%0D%0Aselect+%3Fs+where+%7B%3Fs+dbpedia-owl%3AbirthPlace+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=0&debug=on

    Kingsley

    Thanks

    2013/1/28 Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com
    <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>>

        On 1/28/13 3:53 PM, Andrea Di Menna wrote:
        Hi Kingsley,

        just wanted to add that sometimes.

        The same query:

        
http://dbpedia.org/sparql?default-graph-uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org&query=select+%3Fperson+where+%7B%3Fperson+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2FbirthPlace%3E+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E+%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=2000

        from time to time returns only 5 results (which are the ones
        shown here http://dbpedia.org/page/G%C3%BCtersloh )

        When the query returns 11 elements they are:

        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Hans_Werner_Henze
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Diana_Amft
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Ludwig_M%C3%BCller_(theologian)
        <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Ludwig_M%C3%BCller_%28theologian%29>
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Hanns-Heinrich_Lohmann
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Andy_Duguid
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Wolf_Hilbertz
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Simon_Gosejohann
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Friedrich_Daniel_von_Recklinghausen
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Theodor_Rumpel_(surgeon)
        <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Theodor_Rumpel_%28surgeon%29>
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Thorsten_Stuckmann
        http://dbpedia.org/resource/Annabel_J%C3%A4ger

        By checking the first one, you can see that it has
        http://dbpedia.org/page/G%C3%BCtersloh as
        dbpedia-owl:birthPlace.
        But this is not shown in the
        http://dbpedia.org/page/G%C3%BCtersloh page as a reverse
        property.

        Do you know what is wrong?

        Basic SPARQL endpoint is protected by query cost controls
        based on the backed end machine config etc.. That's why I
        used the lod.openlinksw.com <http://lod.openlinksw.com>
        instance as an example since that's a bigger machine setup
        with the same data.

        See:
        
http://dbpedia.org/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh
        -- this has more results because it makes use of DBMS hosted
        cursors  for scrolling through the dataset .

        You can use OFFSET and LIMIT to page through the data. I am
        sure there are some old posts about these matters re.
        DBpedia's SPARQL endpoint.

        Kingsley


        Regards

        2013/1/28 Kingsley Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com
        <mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com>>

            On 1/28/13 3:15 PM, Daniel Naber wrote:

                Hi,

                I'd like to find all persons born in a given city. At
                http://de.dbpedia.org/page/G%C3%BCtersloh I see
                about 96 persons. When I
                query with Sparql, I only get 11. The query I use is
                this:

                select ?person where {?person
                <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/birthPlace>
                <http://dbpedia.org/resource/G%C3%BCtersloh>}

                The endpoint I use is http://dbpedia.org/sparql. How
                can I get all the
                results that are shown on the web page?

                Regards
                  Daniel


            Try:
            
http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql?default-graph-uri=&query=select+distinct+%3Fperson+where+%7B%3Fperson+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2FbirthPlace%3E+%0D%0A%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=30000&debug=on

            Query Definition:
            
http://lod.openlinksw.com/sparql?default-graph-uri=&qtxt=select+distinct+%3Fperson+where+%7B%3Fperson+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fontology%2FbirthPlace%3E+%0D%0A%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FG%25C3%25BCtersloh%3E%7D&format=text%2Fhtml&timeout=30000&debug=on

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