Well said, Kingsley :-) As a lurker on this list, I found this an interesting discussion. I can understand Martin's sentiment, and the desire to "do something" to ensure that DBpedia will continue to be successful in the future. However, in my experience, such strategic discussions rarely lead to much. My advice is to simply make sure that DBpedia is the best it can be, without worrying too much about "competitors". Your users do not expect you to become like Wikidata or Freebase (or to import their data) -- they want things that only DBpedia can provide and which it is best at providing.
Some comments regarding Wikidata RDF and Linked Data exports: * Wikidata's RDF dumps use a kind of reification, but not the deprecated RDF reification vocabulary. The details are explained in our ISWC'14 paper https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Inproceedings4005/en * Wikidata serves linked data via content negotiation in its IRIs, e.g., http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q465 (the RDF data you get there is http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q465.nt). The problem is that this only returns part of the triples so far, not the whole data you find in the dumps. * I think Martin was complaining about this limitation. Here is what he (or others) could do to rectify this: (1) Let us know about use cases. Send an email to the Wikidata list: "If we would get more linked data from you, we could do <put your super-amazing application here>". Ideally, you would have a demo of this application with Wikidata RDF data as found in the dumps. Development of a large site must be based on user demands, and if you look at the list, you can see many users voicing their demands most eloquently. We cannot ignore these requests in favour of something that is hardly ever requested. (2) If you are an able PHP developer, offer your help. Several people on the Wikidata team would also like to see the linked data getting improved, but cannot do this on top of their other tasks. If somebody would do the main work, there would be support. Email me and I will put you in touch with the right people. Best regards, Markus On 27.01.2015 20:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 1/27/15 1:43 PM, Martin Brümmer wrote: >> I kind of disagree with you here. I regard and use DBpedia as a source >> of machine-readable linked data first. Because of its nature as >> derivative project extracting Wikipedia data, it is endangered by a >> potential future in which the Wikipedia crowd maintains their own >> machine-readable linked data to feed (among others) info boxes the >> DBpedia seeks to extract. > Martin, > > DBpedia isn't *endangered*. Publishing content to a global HTTP based > Network such as the World Wide Web isn't a "zero sum" affair. > > DBpedia's prime goal is to contribute to the Linked Open Data collective > within the World Wide Web. > > To date, DBpedia has over achieved as the core that bootstrapped the > Linked Open Data Cloud. > > Wikidata, Freebase, etc.. are complimentary initiatives. There gains or > loses are not in any way affected by DBpedia. > > The Web is designed on a "horses for courses" doctrine. We can indeed > all get along, and be successful, without anyone having to lose out :) > > > [1] > http://dbpedia.org/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FZero-sum_game > -- About Zero Sum Game > [2] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/horses_for_courses -- Horses for Courses. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a > look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dbpedia-discussion mailing list > Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion > -- Markus Kroetzsch Faculty of Computer Science Technische Universität Dresden +49 351 463 38486 http://korrekt.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ _______________________________________________ Dbpedia-discussion mailing list Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion
