I can do it. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Sorochty To: DeadLists.com ; Charlie Miller Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: 2/3/68: Request for assistance
All - I have always suspected that one of the 1968 mystery tapes may just be an incomplete copy of 2/3/68 - or a mix tape containing part of 2/3/68. The reson I thougth this was that Bobby flubs the lyrics on The Other One in the exact same way on both recordings - he sings: "It left my mind, crater of a mind..., what the hey". The mystery tape contains It Hurts Me Too. Previously circulating copies of 2/3/68 did not contain It Hurts Me Too, but the newest most complete copy does. This makes me more suspicious these are both the same show. Could Charlie or someone else who has audio editing software put the wave files from both of these sources into the program and compare them. Don't want to jump to conclusions, but I'd be willing to bet they are the same. It would be worth it to compare all the songs as the mystery tape could be a compilation/mix tape from different sources. Hoping that someone who works on those "matrix" recordings could know just exactly what to do. Here is the mystery tape found in the vault that needs to be compared to 2/3/68: Band Grateful Dead Venue Unknown Venue Location Unknown, Unknown Date ??/??/68 - Monday posters tickets, passes & laminates One Cryptical Envelopment [#1:06] > The Other One [2:31] > Cryptical Envelopment [3:30] > New Potato Caboose [8:41] % It Hurts Me Too [#4:05] % Born Cross-Eyed [3:08#] Comments The date and location of this recording are unknown. There is no Drums after the first Cryptical, the Other one has the standard lyrics, but Bobby stumbles with them as on 2/3/68. Download Sources SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat (48k) Recordings Contributors David Sorochty , Michael Goetz Caretaker David Sorochty email update --- On Sat, 3/21/09, David Sorochty <skull_ro...@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: David Sorochty <skull_ro...@yahoo.com> > Subject: 2/3/68 preliminary updated entry based on Charlie Miller submission > To: "DeadLists.com" <deadli...@gdead.berkeley.edu>, "Charlie Miller" <charliemille...@earthlink.net> > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:12 PM > Charlie - Thanks for the updated listing and recording! > > DeadLists group - Here is a preliminary copy of the new > entry for 2/3/68 based on the newest most complete copy via > Charlie Miller. Please reply back with comments, > corrections, etc. > > In the old entry there was a notation of this after new > Potato. I'm not hearing it. Can someone else listen of > it and tell me just where it is on the new Miller copy? I > am refering to: "spoken: "goes to three, alright? > ...on four"" > > > > The new entry: > > Band Grateful Dead > > Venue Crystal Ballroom > > Location Portland, OR > > Date 2/3/68 - Saturday posters tickets, passes & > laminates > > One [59:46] Cryptical Envelopment (1) [#1:43] > The > Other One (2) [2:37] > Cryptical Envelopment [3:12] > > New Potato Caboose [8:51] ; (3) [0:09] % It Hurts Me Too > [#3:56] ; (4) [0:09] ; Born Cross-Eyed [2:35] > Jam (5) > [1:46#] % Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (6) [#15:24] ; > [0:05] % Dark Star (7) [#5:22] > China Cat Sunflower > [3:20] > The Eleven [5:28] > Jam [3:58] > Feedback > [1:05#] % > > Comments (1) The first few notes of Cryptical are missing. > (2) After the first Cryptical, there is no Drums intro to > The Other one. This show is the first with the standard > Other one lyrics - however, Bobby does flub them a bit: > "A Spanish lady comes to me, she lays on me this rose. > It rainbow spirals round and round, it trembles and > explodes. It left my mind, crater of a mind..., what the > hey. And the heat came round and busted me for smiling on a > cloudy day. I was skipping through the lilly fields, when I > came across an empty space. It quivered and exploded, left a > bus stop in its place. The bus came by and I got on, > that's when it all began. There was Cowboy Neal, at the > wheel, of a bus to never-ever land". Bob Weir stated in > an interview that after they got back from this tour they > found out that Neal Cassady had died on this night. (3) and > (4) spoken: "thank you". (5) this Jam sounds like > a Spanish Jam, but it is rather rough, and it is Phil > playing > the lead part that Jerry would normally play, with > appropriate drums and organ flourishes. (6) the GMLG from > this show sometimes circulates on tapes of 02/02/68 - it was > spliced into that show for a GDH broadcast. See listing for > 02/02/68. (7) The first few bars of Dark Star are missing > and at the end of it, Phil says "Leave the light on, > will ya?", then a few more notes, and China Cat starts. > Dark Star maps: 0.00 - start, intro, jam, theme ; 1.31 - > start verse one ; 2.22 - end verse one, then various short > jams, that later appear full blown on the > "Live/Dead" version ; 4.04 - start verse two ; > 4.57 - end verse two ; 5.11 - Phil Lesh says: "Leave > the light on, will ya?" ; closing notes; 5.28 - Dark > Star ends. The Eleven maps: 0.00 - starts with Garcia ; 0.16 > - the eleven, for real ; 0.28 - Lesh joins in ; 0.54 - > everyone is doing the eleven ; 2.46 - pre-vocals theme ; > 2.57 - start verses ; 3.39 - end verses then jam ; 5.18 > Garcia starts a new theme not > in 11/4 time. The older tapes, DATs, and SHN sets have a > different song order and are incomplete. The best and most > recently circulating copy, as well as DeadBase XI, give the > sequence above and include the It Hurts Me Too between New > Potato Caboose and Born Cross-Eyed. > > Download Sources Soundboard (just link to this one, > previous copies are incomplete and have been superceded): > > "http://www.archive.org/details/gd1968-02-03.sbd.miller.97346.sbeok.flac16"; > > Recordings 60 SB > > Master recording source(s): 1/4inch-4trk Master > re...@7.5ips > > Contributors David Sorochty , Ihor W Slabicky , David Gans > , "The Art Of Rock" book p278, Bob Weir, Gordon > Sharpless , Adrian M. Johnson , Charlie Miller > > Caretaker David Sorochty email update > > > > > > > Subject: 2/3/68 > > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:27:02 -0800 > > From: "Charlie Miller" > > > > Here is the correct setlist for 2/3/68 > > > > Cryptical > > > Other One > > > Cryptical > > > New Potato Caboose > > It Hurts Me Too > > Born Cross Eyed > > Schoolgirl > > Dark Star > > > China Cat > > > The Eleven
