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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 14 Jun 2004 16:34:19 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 14 09:34:19 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from urchin.earth.li [193.201.200.73] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BZuPb-0006Jj-00; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:34:19 -0700 Received: from ganesh (helo=localhost) by urchin.earth.li with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZuPa-0005oN-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:34:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:34:18 +0100 (BST) From: Ganesh Sittampalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-No-Advert-Scanning: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Ganesh Sittampalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: 11 Jun 2004, http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/tc1/sarge-i386-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux hakone 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Date: 11 Jun 2004 Method: CD with Debian-base on it, then network Machine: 2 Fairly standard PCs Processor: P4 Memory: 2GB/4GB Root Device: IDE Root Size/partition table: No problems with this Output of lspci: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82875P Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82875P Processor to AGP Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82875P Processor to PCI to CSA Bridge (rev02) 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev c2) 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02)0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01) 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (Secondary) (rev 01) 0000:02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (LOM) 0000:03:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [ The other machine is similar ] Base System Installation Checklist: Initial boot worked: [O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [O] Create file systems: [O] Mount partitions: [O] Install base system: [O] Install boot loader: [O] Reboot: [O] [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Comments/Problems: A reasonably technically competent user, but one who is not particularly familiar with installing Linux, was doing the install, with me (experienced at installing/using Debian) babysitting. Some random observations: At one point the installer mentioned PCMCIA (I think in the context of removing PCMCIA support, but I forget). At no point did it mention that you are unlikely to need it if you don't have a laptop (or that you are very likely to if you do) - I think this could have saved the blank look I got from the user at this point! Something (probably the LVM error below) told him to look at the third console for an error message. It didn't mention that the way to do this is to press Alt-F3. If you type disallowed characters in a logical volume name when configuring LVM, the installer doesn't notice and you get an unhelpful error message when it tries to run lvcreate. I think the dodgy character was '/'. When entering passwords to set up accounts, you don't get *s as you type. This is actually fairly standard for Linux, of course, but users tend to find it disorienting especially when there's an obvious "box" they are typing into. In general, dialog box navigation could be explained better. In particular the user kept having to be prompted to use TAB to move between elements; quite possibly this is in some help somewhere or there is a better way, I'm just describing the problems this user had. Hope this is of some help. Cheers, Ganesh --------------------------------------- Received: (at 254629-done) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jul 2004 22:08:43 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 18 15:08:43 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from (kitenet.net) [64.62.161.42] (postfix) by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BmJpr-0003y6-00; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:08:43 -0700 Received: from dragon.kitenet.net (unknown [66.168.94.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Joey Hess", Issuer "Joey Hess" (verified OK)) by kitenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FA218485; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:02:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: by dragon.kitenet.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E54276EE27; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:01:33 -0400 From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FWD: Fixed in NMU of lvmcfg 0.33 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2004_03_25 X-Spam-Level: X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NAN ----- Forwarded message from Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- =46rom: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:17:09 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Debian Install System Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fixed in NMU of lvmcfg 0.33 tag 250145 + fixed tag 254629 + fixed quit This message was generated automatically in response to a non-maintainer upload. The .changes file follows. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:55:39 -0400 Source: lvmcfg Binary: lvmcfg lvmcfg-utils Architecture: source all Version: 0.33 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Changed-By: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description:=20 lvmcfg - Configure the Logical Volume Manager (udeb) lvmcfg-utils - lvmcfg without the main menu item (udeb) Closes: 250145 254629 Changes:=20 lvmcfg (0.33) unstable; urgency=3Dlow . * Martin Michlmayr - In the menu for removing LVs, don't show VGs which don't contain any LVs. Closes: #250145. - Mention how to switch to the third virtual console for checking errors. Closes: #254629. * Updated translations: - Bulgarian (bg.po) by Ognyan Kulev - Bosnian (bs.po) by Safir ??e??erovi?? - Catalan (ca.po) by Jordi Mallach - Czech (cs.po) by Miroslav Kure - Welsh (cy.po) by Dafydd Harries - Danish (da.po) by Claus Hindsgaul - German (de.po) by Alwin Meschede - Greek, Modern (1453-) (el.po) by George Papamichelakis - Spanish (Castilian) (es.po) by Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pe??a - Basque (eu.po) by Piarres Beobide Ega??a - Persian (fa.po) by n - Finnish (fi.po) by Tapio Lehtonen - French (fr.po) by Christian Perrier - Hebrew (he.po) by Lior Kaplan - Hungarian (hu.po) by VER??K Istv??n - Italian (it.po) by Giuseppe Sacco - Japanese (ja.po) by Kenshi Muto - Korean (ko.po) by Changwoo Ryu - Lithuanian (lt.po) by Marius Gedminas - Dutch (nl.po) by Bart Cornelis - Norwegian Nynorsk (nn.po) by H??vard Korsvoll - Polish (pl.po) by Bartosz Fenski - Portuguese (pt.po) by Miguel Figueiredo - Portuguese (Brazil) (pt_BR.po) by Andr?? 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