Your message dated Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:46:02 +0100
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and subject line Bug#365385: mutt: unable to send message if ~/sent directory 
is not there (mutt does not create it)
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Package: mutt
Version: 1.5.11+cvs20060403-1
Severity: normal

DESCRIPTION

1.  Install mutt
2.  Start it for the first time
    

3.  have ~/Maildir full of messages and ~/.muttrc

    set spoolfile = ~/Maildir/

4.  Start composing reply to someone
5.  Send message with "y"

The program stop and displays:

  Couldn't lock /home/foo/sent?

PROBLEM

The error message isn't very descriptive. Did the program try to lock
a file? Is there problem while locking .... The problem is not specified.

Looking at the default composed message reveals that there is field:

   Fcc: ~/sent

added by default

SUGGESTION

1) Program shoudl not add Fcc by default, especially when directory does
not exist.

2) The error message should be clear enough to indicate the error reason.
In this case better erro rmessage would have been:

 Cannot save message. Directory does not exist ~/sent. Check Fcc field


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US)

Versions of packages mutt depends on:
ii  exim4-daemon-heavy [mai 4.61-1           exim MTA (v4) daemon with extended
ii  libc6                   2.3.6-7          GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libdb4.4                4.4.20-4         Berkeley v4.4 Database Libraries [
ii  libgnutls12             1.2.9-2          the GNU TLS library - runtime libr
ii  libidn11                0.5.18-2         GNU libidn library, implementation
ii  libncursesw5            5.5-1.1          Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libsasl2                2.1.19.dfsg1-0.2 Authentication abstraction library

Versions of packages mutt recommends:
ii  locales                       2.3.6-7    GNU C Library: National Language (
ii  mime-support                  3.36-1     MIME files 'mime.types' & 'mailcap

-- no debconf information


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Re: Jari Aalto 2007-01-27 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> - program should have defaults that do not break
> - program should not introduce changes that may break
> - if the user has his preferences, the shoftware should not
>   somp over requiring user to change his settings. That's

Debian packages have to provide sane defaults. record=~/sent is a sane
default. (~/.mutt/sent is not an alternative as record is not a config
file but a mail folder.) The fact that record was previously empty was
a bug that has been fixed. If you think otherwise please provide
evidence that ~/sent is a real problem and not just your local setup.
We cannot work around local problems for problems that only 1 out of
20k users has.

Next time you reopen the bug, please provide a patch. Alternatively,
change the severity to minor and tag it wontfix. Thanks.

Christoph
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