On Fri, 26 Oct 2012, Michael Biebl wrote: > I've been discussing with jordi today about this issue.
Thanks for working on this. > One idea that came up was to check wether wicd is in use (or for > that matter ifupdown), and then show a debconf prompt explaining the > situation, and letting the user chose if he wants to take over > network management by NetworkManager. It would work similar to how > we currently handle multiple installed display managers, like gdm3 > or kdm (btw, gdm3 is currently a hard depends of gnome-core). If the > users choses no, we could disable the service via update-rc.d > disable, so the invoke-rc.d later on in postinst would not start NM. I believe some solution along this line which mitigates breakage caused by the co-installation of wicd and NM would go a long way to resolve the technical concerns of having gnome depend on NM.[0] I'm concerned that such a solution won't be ready, tested, and accepted in time for wheezy, however. But I can certainly see proposing an option to have an explicit sunset on the CTTE's requirement for gnome to only recommend NM once this work is done.[1] > This would also help in situations where users install both wicd and > network-manager by accident, which usually doesn't really work well > since e.g. both spawn their own instance of wpa_supplicant. Right. It would be awesome to have some kind of coordination between NM and wicd (and anything else which potentially configures the network in a conflicting way) so that they both present a similar dialog box if the other is installed. Don Armstrong 0: Indeed, I would have much rather seen this than what I proposed previously in B, but as it requires substantial work on both your and the wicd maintainers' parts, it's not something that the CTTE can require. 1: Even though I personally don't think it's the right approach for gnome to Depend on NM, it would no longer cause the technical problems which make such a Dependency problematic enough for the CTTE to take action. -- A kiss was mysterious and powerful, fragile and invincible. Like any spark, a kiss might fizzle into nothing or consume an entire forest. [...] A kiss could change the entire world. -- Scott Westerfeld _The Killing of Worlds_ p336 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org