Hi Osamu,

Osamu Aoki <os...@debian.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for detailed proof-reading.   Great work!  I have some question
> on your patch as below.  Your thought is most appreciated.
> 
>   http://bugs.debian.org/696994
> 
> But you know most of them are stylistic changes.  Changing them at this
> moment before the release will cause major breakage to translations.
> 
> It has been more than several month under freeze for Debian.  I have not
> been changing SVN at this moment.  But maybe we can start doing it.
> (Released version is not exactly ones on public svn-repo).
> 
> Strategy is to make all typo/plural/article related fixes first.  These
> do not require translation updates.  Then work on content fixes.

That's perfectly fine for me. I did not expected my proposals to be merged
in before the release of Wheezy!
And as you may have seen, there are even more proposed changes to come.
As I get further and further with my translation, I do proofreading slowly
over the english text. This means, that proofreading the whole document
will take months, or most probably more than a year. Be prepared to receive
more and more proposals ;-)
Implement them whenever you want.

> On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
> > this is round 3 of my proposals for the DR.
> 
> Yes I see them at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696994
> 
> > You may want to fix at least one point before the next upload:
> > see line 189 of attached diff.
> 
> FYI: I need to merge all these changes manually to the source files with
> resideing under the asciidoc directory as *.txt.  Diff to that source is
> easier for me to integrate.

Ok, sorry for this. I will make diffs for the txt files in the future.

> > @@ -9352,16 +9352,18 @@
> >  "<citerefentry><refentrytitle>aptitude</refentrytitle><manvolnum>8</"
> >  "manvolnum></citerefentry> for an interactive text interface to manage the 
> > "
> >  "installed packages and to search the available packages."
> >  msgstr ""
> >  
> >  #. type: Content of: <book><chapter><itemizedlist><listitem><para>
> > +### HW: update-manager works basically under other desktop environments, 
> > too.
> >  msgid ""
> >  "<citerefentry><refentrytitle>update-manager</refentrytitle><manvolnum>8</"
> > -"manvolnum></citerefentry> for keeping your system up-to-date if you're "
> > -"running the default GNOME desktop."
> > +"manvolnum></citerefentry> for keeping your system up-to-date; it is 
> > mainly "
> > +"aimed for being used in the default GNOME desktop, but basically works 
> > under "
> > +"other desktop environments as well."
> >  msgstr ""
> 
> True.  But question is how pedantic we should be.  I want to keep it
> short.  Now we have update-manager-gnome ...

Just a proposal, do as you like.

> >  #. type: Content of: <book><chapter><table><tgroup><tbody><row><entry>
> > -msgid "graphical package manager (GNOME front-end for APT)"
> > +### HW: my proposal for update-manager also applies here: synaptic is also
> > +### HW: working fine under Xfce for example.
> > +msgid "graphical package manager (graphical front-end for APT)"
> >  msgstr ""
> 
> I think we need some generic solution than making every text longer.

[...]

> >  #. type: Content of: 
> > <book><chapter><section><section><orderedlist><listitem><para>
> >  msgid ""
> >  "Type \"<literal>l</literal>\" to enter the package display limit as "
> >  "\"<literal>~i</literal>\" and type \"<literal>m</literal>\" over "
> > -"\"<literal>Tasks</literal>\" as manual installed."
> > +"\"<literal>Tasks</literal>\", to mark that packages as manual installed."
> >  msgstr ""
> 
> YES.  sounds better! But unsynmetric use of ",".  Should I add ";"
> before "and" for these to make it clearer?
> 
> Now:
> Type \"<literal>l</literal>\" to enter the package display limit as 
> \"<literal>~i</literal>\" and 
> type \"<literal>m</literal>\" over \"<literal>Tasks</literal>\", to mark that 
> packages as manual installed.
> 
> How about use "," and ";":
>                              V                                                
>                 V
> Type \"<literal>l</literal>\", to enter the package display limit as 
> \"<literal>~i</literal>\"; and 
> type \"<literal>m</literal>\" over \"<literal>Tasks</literal>\", to mark that 
> packages as manual installed.

Yes.
Or even use "then" instead of "and" (in German it is a rule, to not use "and" 
after a comma
or semicolon. Don't know how about this in English).


cheers
Holger


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