On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:24:48AM +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Josh Triplett <j...@joshtriplett.org> writes: > > By default, journald logs to the non-persistent /run/log/journal. > > journald will only maintain a persistent journal if /var/log/journal > > exists. > > > > Please create /var/log/journal, to enable persistent journal logging. > Note that this is not a straight-forward fix, because it will result in > having the logfiles twice on your machine by default (rsyslog + > journal), which is not a great default.
True. Personally, I intended to fix that problem on my own system by removing rsyslog as soon as persistent logging is enabled. :) > Fedora is trying to disable syslog in their default installation, but > that is a debate that we should really not be having right now. > > I’d say the situation is unfortunate, but nothing we should address > immediately. As a fix which wouldn't need to wait on the Great Syslog/Journal Debate, what about creating a separate trivial systemd-persistent-journal package, which enables persistent logging by installing /var/log/journal, sets up the appropriate permissions on that directory (systemd-journal and adm), and provides linux-kernel-log-daemon and system-log-daemon (since journald handles /dev/log compatibly)? - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org