Hello,

On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:48:27 +0200 Guillem Jover <guil...@debian.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 09:56:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Felix Berlakovich wrote:
> > > I applied the patch from Vasily i. Redkin to version 1.17.10 (and moved
> > > a redundant part into an own function). BTW his patch works great.  I
> > > did this in preparation for a possible threeway merge improvement. Is
> > > there still any interest in such a feature? Is there any reason why this
> > > patch was never integrated?
> > 
> > Paul Wise pointed me at http://community.libelektra.org/wp/?p=145 and
> > http://community.libelektra.org/wp/?p=153 which in turn brought
> > me back to this email.
> 
> I noticed the initial blogs about elektra some time ago, and was
> surprised (not in a positive way) that yet another time a GSoC had
> been approved w/o any kind of previous interaction with a project it
> supposedly required coordination with. Had pending sending myself a
> mail to the gsoc list but had other stuff to do, and pretty much lost
> the motivation after those blog posts… :/

Sorry, that it went this way. The blog posts were a call that anybody 
interested in the topic should contact us. The only one who did contact us was 
Dominique Dumont. Most of the other work (except Config::Model) starved 
several years ago.

We wanted something where most of it can go upstream during (or shortly after) 
GSoC. The patches w/o or little reaction till years were not really a 
invitation. (But we still tried it!) Dpkg is not the only place where it may 
be done and it seems there is a good reason why several workarounds exist now.

However, I think bringing dpkg conffiles to our century would be an elegant 
solution. But that unfortunately it still remains to be done.

> > 4/ yes we are interested in the feature but dpkg is an important piece of
> >    software and we must get it right from the start, so extra caution is
> >    always a good idea
> 
> I think I've mentioned before, in any case I'm planning on getting
> the conffiledb stuff ready hopefully before the freeze. Which is a
> requirement for this bug being fixed.

This information would have been very useful earlier. A simple merge is 
already possible with the patch Felix wrote (based on an earlier patch). That 
would be already quite an improvement. However, if I understand you correctly, 
the reason not to accept the patch is that you want the full solution (3-way) 
or nothing. I understand that.

> > which then links to
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/Proposals/ConffileDatabase

I wanted a proposal (based on ConffileDatabase and Config::Model approach, see 
https://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrade) before the beginning of GSoC 
(later I wrote one, so that we have something to work with), unfortunately Ian 
did not finish nor publish it.

best regards,
Markus


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