On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:56:19 +0200 Pino Toscano wrote:

[...]
> In data sabato 22 aprile 2017 17:42:03 CEST, Francesco Poli (wintermute) ha 
> scritto:
[...]
> > but having
> > this new upstream version in unstable (or, at least, in
> > experimental) would be highly appreciated anyway!
> 
> Upload it in unstable, knowing it would not make it into testing
> anyway, would only make fixing bugs in testing way more complicated
> (since they would require special uploads to testing-proposed-update,
> which has a way smaller surface of testers than unstable).

I am aware of this: it's exactly the reason why I suggested to at least
use experimental... 

> 
> Uploading it to experimental would be possible.  OTOH, since in almost
> every version of poppler the libpoppler library has a bumped SONAME,
> this would require me building and uploading binaries on my own, and
> wait for NEW processing.

Please excuse my ignorance: wouldn't this be the same processing
required for a hypothetical upload to unstable?
I mean: you should be used to this procedure...

> I don't fancy doing this every month or so
> (the current release frequency of poppler), so I do not upload every
> version even in experimental, no matter the state of the release.

That's fully understandable! If an upload had been made one month ago,
I wouldn't have asked for another upload now!

But here we are talking about version 0.54.0, while unstable still has
version 0.48.0, uploaded some 6 months ago...

> 
> So, unless some other software in experimental requires a new version
> (where "requires" means "cannot be even build, not even with few
> features disabled"), I will not upload new versions of poppler until
> I know I can start a transition in unstable (so surely after testing
> will be opened again after the Stretch release).
> 
> If Debian had some PPA/Bikeshed system implemented I would use it,
> but until then...

I am not sure I understand why you would upload to a PPA repository,
but not to experimental. Wouldn't the amount of required work be
similar?


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