On Wednesday, 12 September 2018 4:01:24 AM AEST Héctor Orón Martínez wrote: > Since `docker.io` reached testing, could you please consider backporting > it to stable?
No, please... Maintaining Docker is an enormous time sink. I doubt backports
will ever happen and certainly I don't want to be involved.
I'm contemplating orphaning Docker and the only reason I'm still looking
after it is because I think it is strategically important for Debian success.
I don't like Docker. It is very sloppy, bloated, over engineered with
selfish, uncooperative fork-obsessed upstream who refuses to adopt good
versioning practices making our work very difficult.
Recently I've switched all my containers to _rkt_ and I'm very happy about
that.
Whoever needs Docker can install it straight from "testing" since Docker is
statically linked. I can't justify the effort required to maintain the
official backport.
> What kind of work would be needed to ease the path to provide such
> backport?
Man time required to backport hundreds of dependency libraries and even more
time to maintain all those, resolve complicated transitions, build/test
failures and tight versioning. Team of several people working full time for
months - that's what it will take.
We are nowhere near the point where it would be safe to backport a monster
package like Docker. First, I'd like to suggest having a real team
maintaining Docker, not just myself. I've already invested too much time into
Docker at the great personal cost and expense of other worthy projects/
packages. I'm not going to stick much longer...
Besides just keeping Docker in testing is a challenge due to build/test
failures routinely exposed by CI. Docker dependency tree is very big and
surface for problems is enormous.
I wholeheartedly recommend using _rkt_ instead and it looks like rkt would be
actually possible to backport.
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Dmitry Smirnov.
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