Michael Tokarev <m...@tls.msk.ru> wrote:
switch away from the user-mode networking since it is really
incomplete and not everything works with it. It is good for quick
testing but definitely not for anything serious.

I only use this particular guest to test changes to a program.  I always
test first on the host, because the host is already configured for the
most common way I use the program.  Then I test in the guest, because
there are some other configurations that are easier for me to have set
up in a VM, instead of reconfiguring the host.

To do this, I need to copy the new program from host to guest (about 4
megabytes), run the tests, and then copy the test results back from
guest to host (maybe 60-120 megabytes or so).  I do this about two or
three times a year.

For that level of usage, combined with the ease of setup, I find the
user-mode networking to be perfectly acceptable.

It might be easier to switch to either oldstable (with its own load of
bugs including security ones!) or to current stable than to backport
stuff to old-old-stable.

This one is on me.  I just haven't upgraded this host off of
oldoldstable (9) yet.  I have other hosts that have been running
oldstable (10) for a while now with no problems.  (I didn't discover
11 was out until I was researching package version numbers for this bug
report.)

I reported it anyway because it seemed to be caused by the recent patch,
and I thought it might affect other releases as well.

In your next email, you noted

btw, email from our mailserver is incorrectly blocked by your provider:

I didn't know this was happening.  I will contact the email address
provided in the bounce message, but I don't know how much effect it will
have.  I don't work at AT&T or have control over AT&T's mail servers.

I know email from bugs.debian.org to me was working as recently as
November 2020, because I got a message about another bug at that time.
I haven't filed any new bugs since then.

I *did* get the automatic "marked as closed" email from
ow...@bugs.debian.org about this bug when Markus closed it, and another
one from that same address a few minutes ago after I submitted my "it's
working" report, so not everything seems to be blocked.

Matt Roberds

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