On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 07:28:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > A last point is that I'm somewhat surprised that Sven should see removal > of SVN access as unacceptable, as he did exactly the same thing to a > member of the kernel team some time ago after a conflict that, though it > had a technical base, was also mostly personal. The conflict in that case
I believe you are speaking about jonas, right ? Jonas is currently a member of the kernel team, with svn access and everything. > was only between two individuals about a single bug report instead of > between most core members of the team and an individual. In that case the > _team_ decided to revert the revocation of the commit access shortly > afterwards. I indeed did that in a moment of rage. The commit access was readded a few days afterward, without anyone noticing, and it was an error of my part to do so, but hardly led to consequence. Notice though that there is no technical reason to remove the svn access. I have never, even when i disagreed with the d-i team on technical things, abused my commit rights. So, if you want nothing to do with me, fine, i want nothing to do with you all the same. That has nothing to do with you willingliy making it difficult for me to contribute, in particular since my contributions have always been on areas nobody was interested in fixing. I remember you your own words, i don't remember when it was, but it was in person, probably in extremadura. You said, about some random powerpc breakage : "We don't do anything, because we know sven will fix them eventually". This doesn't strike me as something you would say about someone who is not to be thrusted with svn commit access. And now the last point. Removing my svn commiut access was probably the stupidess thing you could have done in this case. It hardly achieved any of the goals you probably had with it, and if you had not done this, we would not be having this problem, everything would be fine, and everyone would be hacking in joy and fun. Sure, i misbehaved, but it was a particular situation, and i personally asked you to take this into account. You also misbehaved, and did so in full knowledge, and with the agreement of other un-named members of the d-i team. Also, i never heard you comment on the social and decency arguments ? I guess everyone, you included, is too ashamed of your actions to comment on it ? And this i believe is an almost unpardonable issue. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]