Hi Jonas,
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:44 PM Jonas Hahnfeld <hah...@hahnjo.de> wrote:
> Thanks for pushing to get guile-2.2 back into Debian and LilyPond
> 2.24.0 packaged for Debian Bookworm, much appreciated. Regarding
> maintenance of Guile 2.2, we are probably in this together since our
> official binaries use it as well...
Many thanks to Rob Browning for his blessings, and to the Debian FTP
Masters for asking me for more details, and let guile-2.2 back into
Debian 12 bookworm.
And thank you for offering to help with Guile 2.2 maintenance just in
case any problem arises! I really hope LilyPond 2.26.0 and the rest
of the ecosystem (e.g. on Windows platform) will be ready for Guile
3.0 really soon.
And... lilypond 2.24.0-1 has entered Debian! Though I already found a
bug when upgrading lilypond-doc due to /usr/share/info/lilypond
symlink conflict, my own fault for not testing it thoroughly enough
before upload. Thanks to excellent commit messages in LilyPond, by
Kevin Barry in this case, I was able to find out the problem and fix
it in a jiffy: we had been running (in debian/rules) both "$(MAKE)
install-doc" and "$(MAKE) install-info", not knowing that it is not
only an unnecessary duplication, but also install-info's behaviour
changed. Building 2.24.0-2 now, and keeping my fingers crossed. :-)
> Another question for planning would be regarding Debian's freeze: What
> would be the last date that you could possibly pick up a bug fix
> release 2.24.1 of LilyPond? There are no concrete plans yet, but if you
> say that it is possible and somehow fits the schedule, we might go for
> it.
Great question! I'm not entirely sure!
You likely know about about freeze schedule from
https://release.debian.org/bookworm/freeze_policy.html
but how it would exactly happen is a bit hard to say; there is always
uncertainty, but here is my interpretation:
According to that page, since the Soft Freeze starts on 2023-02-12,
I would say having 2.24.1 released before 2023-02-05 would be the
safest bet, giving me a day or two of leeway to get it built, tested
and uploaded, and then 5 days for migration to testing/bookworm before
2023-02-12. Though maybe if I were to set "urgency=high" in
debian/changelog, the delay is supposedly reduced to 2 days, so
perhaps 2023-02-08?
That said, since 2023-02-12 is a "Soft Freeze", bug fix releases can
still go after 2023-02-12, though the delay to testing migration
becomes 10 days regardless of the urgency setting, so perhaps
2023-02-28 is the absolute latest for a bug fix release to make it
into bookworm before the 2023-03-12 Hard Freeze?
That said, bug fixes after 2023-03-12 is still possible (with a
minimum 20-day delay for migration to bookworm), but the lilypond
Debian package currently does not have any autopkgtest yet, so that
would require a manual review and unblock from the Release Managers.
I suppose I could try to add an autopkgtest for LilyPond by trying to
run "make test" but hopefully using the existing /usr/bin/lilypond
binary instead of recompiling the whole thing from source? (Though
that's a possibility too...) That might remove the need for manual
review. I'm not sure.
Failing that, there will be "bookworm-backports" after the Debian 12
is released where we could backport future bug fixes. Something like
that?
Thank you so much for your work on LilyPond! It's always exciting to
have a new release as an end user, and it is amazing the amount of
dedication and great work that you and the rest of the LilyPond
development team put into such a complicated yet immensely useful
piece of software. Kudos to you all!
Cheers,
Anthony
