Our social contract #4 says "Our priorities are our users and free software". What benefits would having the python3.10 base packages in bookworm bring for our users (as I point out, for some users, this is a necessity) and what disadvantages would it bring (none that I can think of)? Why would we tell a whole bunch of our users: "Don't upgrade to Debian 12 until all of the critical packages you use from PyPI are upgraded to support Python 3.11, or fix those packages yourself"?
And may I politely remind you, Thomas, that you are very concerned about breaking things for people: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=973617#40 This is likely a far greater impact than the discussion there on many more people. Best wishes, Julian On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 12:25:18PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > How about fixing the 3.11 issues if you hit them ? How about using Buster and > 3.9 if 3.11 doesn't work (yet) for you ? > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) > On Feb 5, 2023 11:38, Julian Gilbey <jul...@d-and-j.net> wrote: > > > > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > > bookworm? > > > > I was trying to run some experiments in a virtual environment a few > > days ago, and it turns out that several of the Python packages I > > needed do not yet run on Python 3.11. I was saved by being able to > > run in a Python 3.10 venv and download all the required packages from > > PyPI. If bookworm shipped without python3.10, I would not have been > > able to do my work. Removing python3.10 from bookworm will seriously > > affect many of our users in a similar situation to me. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Julian > > > > P.S. We should also fix #1036268 if we do keep python3.10 in bookworm; > > I'm happy to do an NMU if needed.