Am 07.11.2023 um 01:05 schrieb Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org>:

> Am 07.11.23 um 00:09 schrieb Patrik Schindler:
>> Am 06.11.2023 um 21:09 schrieb Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org>:
>>> Not correct. If you have sysvinit-core installed, it will pull in 
>>> orphan-sysvinit-scripts by default which ships a rsyslog sysv init script.
>> I have sysvinit-core installed and orphan-sysvinit-scripts was not pulled in 
>> automatically.
> 
> Which means you have Recommends disabled (which is not the Debian default).
> It is expected that users how do that know what they are doing and are aware 
> of the consequences.

Now you're making it too easy for you by simply putting the blame back.

Recommends always pulled in a lot of bloat, so I disabled this many releases 
ago, for a very reason, without any adverse effect *ever*.

And now disabled *recommendations* make a system partly fail after upgrade.

First: This shows that orphan-sysvinit-scripts should be pulled in as 
dependency and not as recommendation, at least with Bookworm. Which is a moot 
point because this is a bug report about rsyslogd.

Second: This also shows that separating initscripts from the core packages has 
been a bad idea. You can't fix things with technology when politics are 
involved.

:wq! PoC

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