On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:02:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:00:03 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>
>
> > Please for reasoning below. If mailcrypt is useless, lets remove it.
>
> mailcrypt is not useless -- it was just used wrongly. In other
> words, PEBKAC. mailcrypt still does what is has always done just as
> well.
Dude, if it's PEBKAC then it is between your keyboard and chair.
Please see today's LWN.net -- funny how the ratio of borken ballots
spikes up after switching to a sometimes / somewhere / but not really
everywhere supported wannabe standard. We're not yet in an UTF-8
capable mail environment, and pretending otherwise is silly.
So next time, please fix devotee / ballots and stick to 7bit ascii. I
am familiar with the issue -- I have 8bit/7bit issues in my family
name and don't think it is worth being dogmatic here.
Dirk
>
>
> > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:17:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> Hi, On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:34:25 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> > Package: vm Version: 7.19-11 Severity: important
> >>
> >> > I have been voting in Debian elections since whenever we started
> >> > them, and I always used vm + mailcrypt.
> >>
> >> > Well, not this year.
> >>
> >> Yup. Things have a way of moving on, don't they?
> >>
> >> > Somehow vm now manages to incorrectly mime-wrap the signed vote
> >> > to upset devotee. Manoj, it would be nice if you could figure
> >> > out if your vm package is broken, or if your devotee software is
> >> > at fault.
> >>
> >> Neither devotee nor vm are broken.
> >>
> >> VM is not at fault, since it does not really involved in sending
> >> mail, nor in creating the signed message. When you invoke mail
> >> sending commands in vm, including reply, you are thrust into a bog
> >> standard emacs mail mode. What happens next is based on the code
> >> for that mode, nothing to do with VM.
> >>
> >> Secondly, mailgrypt is old, hoary, and does not produce RGC 3156
> >> compliant mail -- it just creates a RFC 2440 message, which, if it
> >> is not 7 bit clean, is quote-print protected by emacs mail
> >> mode. Which causes your votes to fail.
>
> > Funny how it worked for, uhh, dunno, a decade?
>
> That seems to express a profound ignorance of how things
> work, and what failed now. mailcrypt is not at fault either -- it
> never created a PGP/MIME message. Emacs mail mode did the right thing
> also -- it say a diacretic, and proceeded to protect it. It did not
> know the body was a PGP message.
>
> If the body of the mail being signed did not have non ascii
> characters, mailcrypt + emacs would not have produced mangled
> mail. Since this is the first ballot which has a character like ?,
> no wonder mailcrypt and emacs appeared to work before.
>
> ftp masters, please feel free to close the bug.
>
> manoj
> --
> You're too beautiful to ignore. Too much woman. Kirk to Yeoman Rand,
> "The Enemy Within", stardate unknown
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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