On 2009-02-10 21:06:55 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Having iso-8859-1 preferred over UTF-8 was a good choice back in 
> 2000 when $send_charset was set this way in init.h, since back then 
> UTF-8 support in MUAs was not always good.
> 
> Now in 2009 that's no longer a problem.

Having iso-8859-1 in $send_charset is not a problem either.

> > > And the size advantage in these cases would typically be something 
> > > around 1%, so not really noticable.
> > 
> > This depends on the language and the length of the message.
> > There's much more 1% of accented characters in French text,
> > for instance.
> 
> But there are also the characters œ and Œ in French text,

They are not characters, but what is called in French "digramme soudé".

> and they are not in iso-8859-1.

They appear in very rare words, thus in rare messages. Moreover they
look very strange in a monospace font (really, two columns should be
used for more readability). As there's never an ambiguity (contrary
to accented vs non-accented characters), I don't use them anyway.

> > So, it can be noticeable.
> 
> "noticeable" if you manually count bytes.
> 
> Even if it was 10% it wouldn't make any difference in practice (emails 
> are big when someone adds a 1MB attachment, the few bytes in the email 
> body hardly make any difference you notice in practice).

Large mail with *only* text still exists. In this case, this makes
a difference.

> UTF-8 has the advantages compared to iso-8859-1:
> - it can handle all characters in one charset
>   (iso-8859-1 won't work without the fallback to UTF-8) 

So what? With the current $send_charset, UTF-8 will be used if the
messages contains characters outside iso-8859-1.

> - it has already become more or less the standard charset
>   under Linux

Not just under Linux. But the point is that MUA's can handle iso-8859-1.
So, there's nothing wrong in using it.

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