On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:06:00 +0200 Tore Anderson wrote: > * Francesco Poli > > > Well, I may consider small differences in the letter as reasonable. > > But what I'm talking about is a case where the *meaning* of the > > dialog is definitely different between speech and subtitles! > > It may well be intended (more on this later), but it appears to me > > as a *bug* anyway... > > It agree it seems kinda strange. However I'm not willing to fork > ScummVM over in order to have a «ScummVM - Debian Edition» > containing a fix for this particular issue.
Huh?
I would say this is a bug in the game data, not in the engine.
What you should do, AIUI, is modify beneath-a-steel-sky so that the
right (consistent) subtitles appear, rather than the awkward ones...
I cannot see where are the difficulties: it's a matter of simple string
substitution, isn't it?
Maybe I'm a bit ignorant about the data format, but the subtitles must
be included somewhere inside them, right?
> It's much too minor for
> that, as I see it. You should rather convince upstream (ie. Ender).
As I see it, upstream is Revolution Software and I don't count on seeing
a new _Beneath a Steel Sky_ version out...
>
> > I even checked German and Swedish subtitles, but I'm really not
> > qualified to tell what they mean. For the record, they seem to
> > be structured similarly to the other non-English ones...
>
> I'm Norwegian, so I understand Swedish perfectly. I could always
> translate those subs for you if you want.
Well, to me even writing down Swedish subtitles while I see them on
screen is too difficult! :-(
As I said, I can send you a game-save from which you can see subtitles
by yourself: I had real fun in reading that conversation in all kind of
languages! ;-)
>
> > Since English subtitles seem to be much softer than the spoken
> > audio (and than non-English subtitles), this discrepancy smells
> > like censorship or something.
> > Are you aware of any issues that Revolution Software had to face
> > in English-speaking countries?
>
> If I recall correctly, they had to change the logo on the beer can
> in the intro, because the brewery (Foster's?) didn't like them using
> their trademark or something. Also I know that the Americans are
> quite anal about language, maybe they didn't like «defecation».
> (Sorry about the pun...)
Maybe someone went mad about that dialog, but what's funny is that only
English subtitles were changed. English speech was left untouched...
:-?
>
> Grazie
Prego! [ You're welcome! ]
And so we start the "Debian BTS teach yourself Italian in 24 bugs"
series... ;-)
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:-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-)
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