retitle 441613 Wrong quote signs used in German man page translation
severity 441613 minor
thanks

Hello Christian,
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 03:26:02PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Helge Kreutzmann ([email protected]):
> > reopen #441613
> > thanks
> > 
> > Hello Christian,
> > looking at the Testing version of the man page, several issues stated
> > are still present. Since no version was given upon closure and IMHO
> > the version in Sid is the same, these issues are mostly not fixed.
> 
> I don't think that keeping opened a bug report that talks about
> completely outdated versions of the program is a good idea;

This is not the case (at least not mainly). And from the closing
remark, it appeared as if everything was dealt with.

> Since this bug report was sent, aptitude switched to po4a for manpages
> translations. So, mentions about "this part is not translated" are
> pointless as this is precisely the point of po4a to allow parts of
> documents to be untranslated.

Yes, I know. I would not have reopened for this.

> It is thus a very bad policy to keep bugs opened only because a
> translation based on po4a is incomplete. If we do this, we'll spend
> our lives opending/closing bug reports.

Not the case here (at least not mainly).

> Admitedly, there are a few others issues mentioned in this bug
> report. But they are mixed for formatting issues that are most of the
> time obsoleted by the changes in the build methods for manpages.
> 
> So, if a few issues remain, I would advise reporting them *separately*
> (and even more fixing them in the PO file). Keeping this bug opened is
> just a waste of time. I won't do that myself because I hate bug
> ping-pong but I think the bug really should be close whatsoever.

Fine.

> So, if nobody closes the bug, see you in two years when nobody will
> have worked on the bug report and it is still opened..:-)...then I'll
> close it.

If aptitude is dealing with bugs (i.e. uploads fixes) as said the
german l10n-team will most likely provide updates. But so far aptitude
does not seem interested. So instead of struggeling with translators,
please struggle with maintainers. So if/when you know details about
uploads which might include a new de.po, ping us (debian-l10n-german)
and most likely someone will work on the translation.

For the technical part, as stated in my last e-mail already:

 Not fixed. The quotes used are not German ones at all:
 "install".
 It would either be >>install<< or ,,install".

(Sorry, funny formatting is due to me pasting it in from the bug log).

As for the closing the bug report: After the switch to po4a a simple 
"does this still apply" would have sufficed to narrow this done.

To satisfy your request, I retitled the bug report.

If this (no longer) is an aptitude bug but rather and po4a one (which
I suspect, but I'm not sure and don't have the time to investigate
atm) please reassign, po4a upstream is very responsive.

Greetings

           Helge
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