Robert Millan skrev:
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 02:42:37PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:13:08AM +1100, Peter Moulder wrote:
  - For the one application that I ever run in wine, installing
    msttcorefonts made the difference between whether that application
    was usable under wine or not: without msttcorefonts, most text
    fields just didn't show up, making the application impossible to
    use.

    If that were true of every application (a premise I suppose to be
    false, but I wouldn't know),
No, it's not true.  We have plenty of free TrueType fonts in the archive.  If
there aren't installed (or aren't properly installed), that's a bug in the
respective package.

Btw I think #454178 should provide some insight on what's going on.

Not all that much; msttcorefonts do not include Tahoma. That's why the current Wine releases includes a free clone of it. It is unlikely that the Wine team will want to clone Arial, since that one *is* included in msttcorefonts.

I take it we don't have any free arial fonts.  Ove, can we just make wine
prefer something else when no font is found, or something like this?

I suppose the Liberation fonts would work as a substitute, because they're specifically designed to be metric-compatible with Arial, Courier, Times New Roman, etc. To make Windows application look right and maybe even be usable (with things like having text actually fit on the buttons they're supposed to be on an issue), no other free fonts I know of would do, as they're not metric-compatible.

Wine already tries to choose some other fonts (in the requested class, if the application provided one - which it might not if it thinks the exact font name will always exist, like in #454178). With several to choose from, it'll choose the first or last one or something, not sure. Pretty arbitrary, anyway. That's how Windows chooses fonts. In any case, the result may not always be great...






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