On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:26:14 -0700 Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> wrote: > So, this is also the last call for anyone to explain what harmful effect > this could have if they think it would have a harmful effect. My > understanding is that all of the possible harmful effects have been fixed > by various other changes.
systemd-shim 8-4 and newer no longer seem likely to produce harmful effects, given that systemd-shim now depends on systemd rather than shipping its own D-Bus policy, and that systemd-shim itself pointedly does not launch on systemd systems. Neither of those two properties seems likely to change or break. systemd-shim does depend on cgmanager, which seems more prone to breakage, and in fact has a handful of open bugs on it. cgmanager has in the past broken on non-systemd systems. I personally would like to see a resolution of 755977 to deal with that. Apart from that, I would still request that someone with the ability to produce a modified local mirror test the two critical cases mentioned in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746578#129 . If those two cases work, then systemd systems should not end up with systemd-shim installed under normal circumstances, making breakage far less likely. - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141102055908.GA1250@thin