-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 24-05-2005 19:03, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2005, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > >> I can easily see a KDE-CDD being created with the aim of creating one or >> more good default setups aimed at different use-cases (developer, >> office-worker, home-user, ...) > > Sure. But I know by own experience that running a CDD has to be *done* > by *somebody*. I see no driving force behind this kind of CDD and thus > I do not see this happen. If I should be wrong - it's fine for me.
The above was spawned from the below: On 23-05-2005 14:36, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 21-05-2005 18:20, Andreas Tille wrote: >>>If you ask me a CDD should not really depend from a certain desktop >>>environment but on certain applications which are needed by the end >>>users. > > > What choices a CDD should or should not remove from the local admin > is IMHO not for us to define as developers of a _common_ framework > for CDDs. So you do agree with me after all, Andreas, that if someone choose to put the "driving force" behind a CDD based on a desktop (suite:: facet) instead of a set of needed applications (use:: facet), then we welcome that. In other words, we should make our cdd toolkit generic, not tied to specific facets! What difference it makes? Well, some facets (like use::) go well together, byt others (like suite::) may conflict with each other. The point of this whole thread is wether or not it makes sense to always assume a CDD wants to be within Debian. A CDD for "Cool multimedia" may choose to include patent-risky compilation options to ffmpeg and mplayer. A "Best of GNU" CDD may want the GNUstep desktop (without non-GNU software "polluting" the menus!) and GFDL documentation (which is considered non-free by Debian). Both of the above CDDs have a large community behind them (just check out the discussions in -devel about mplayer in Debian). The first one would "only" need an autobuilder applying compile options based on tagging (yes, same tags used for package selection and for picking/adapting config tweaks!). The other would "only" need a "licensing::" facet added to debtags and -doc packages tagged as they flood non-free when sarge gets released and the GFDL-vote kicks in. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFClFWon7DbMsAkQLgRApByAKCYooWk4InLgftYAu/yZycz/TYj9QCePAA0 vENL3hLBXo2OedhePLZPERE= =dKsI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

