On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:18:54PM +0200, "J?rgen A. Erhard" wrote:
> >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>     Ben> On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 04:06:33PM +0000, michael d. ivey wrote:
>     >> I started making personal debs of the everybuddy CVS snapshots because 
> EB
>     >> releases tend to lag pretty far behind the code in CVS.  I called my
>     >> package ebsnap, and made it conflict with everybuddy.  I put it on my
>     >> site, and that was that.
>     >> 
>     >> Now, I've adopted everybuddy and gotten through the NM process.  I'd 
> like
>     >> to add the CVS version to unstable...but I don't know what to call it.
>     >> My current idea is everybuddy-cvs, and make it conflict with 
> everybuddy,
>     >> and conflict/replace ebsnap, for the people who may have downloaded
>     >> ebsnap.  Is that the correct way to proceed?
>     >> 
>     >> I'll be doing the rename and the upload sometime early next week.
> 
>     Ben> Keep it the same name. Woody is unstable right now, there are
>     Ben> a lot of packages that are pre-release just for the sake of
>     Ben> testing and working out bugs. So, IMO, keep it the same name,
>     Ben> and version it appropriately. Also might add "This is a CVS
>     Ben> build" at the bottom of the description.
> 
> Sorry, but that is *wrong*.
> 
> What happens when we release and everybuddy is still not stable?  Do
> we pull it out if it's too unstable?  Why, of course we will.  Which
> would leave our users w/o everybuddy.
> 
> Or we could pull it, and replace it with the last stable... oops, the
> version number will be lower.  So we'd need an epoch.  Very bad.
> 
> I've lobbied Clint Adams for doing both a zsh 3.0 and a 3.1 package.
> I wouldn't want to see other packages going that "unstable is the
> greatest, fuck the users who want bulletproof stable".
> 
> I think it's obvious I feel strongly about this...

If people want stable, they can use the "stable" distribution. We call
it "unstable" for a reason.

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