On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 05:55:38PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > I certainly didn't want to diminish the work you're doing, but I still think > we have to find better ways to release. potato is too old right now and most > people I do talk to, tell me they don't care about all these packages, but > they want newer versions of the packages they use.
Two responses: first, if they don't want new packages, just newer versions of the stuff they "use", that'd presumably exclude things like, oh, say, KDE... So you've got to be a little careful there. Second, most of the problems are with the newer versions of old packages: apache: 126707, 126743 apt: 127648, 127942 base-passwd: 123345 exim: 126124 gnuplot: 126014 gpm: 113454 gs-common: 126475 icewm: 123448 imagemagick: 123133 iproute: 118424, 119601, 123224 ld.so: 97071, 102055 libc6: 126441 mc: 123161 mozilla: 128046 pcmcia-cs: 119837 postgresql: 118362, 121088 qmail: 72310 reportbug: 127507 samba: 127444 slapd: 112499, 126898 ssh: 127575 sysutils: 120025 sysvinit: 127635 tetex-bin: 69600 tripwire: 90912, 92510, 94603 ...are a sample of pakcages that seem reasonably "standard" to me that are in the RC bug list. You'll note some of those bug numbers are around a year old. > Yes, I know that if we > take all those people we probably have 99% of the packages belonging into > someone's core, but the age is a factor. No, I don't dispute that looking at core packages is worthwhile: it is; all I'm saying is that once we actually get to the point where those core packages are releasable, the rest of the work (getting rid of unreleasable extra packages) isn't much of a problem. And converesely: if we don't get all the base/standard bugs fixed, there's nothing anyone can do to make us release any quciker, unless we're willing to just release a bunch of junk with known security problems that doesn't upgrade cleanly and whatever else. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. The daffodils are coming. Are you? linux.conf.au, February 2002, Brisbane, Australia --- http://linux.conf.au/