Hi On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:13:17PM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote: > > I've noticed there's quite a few almost-empty packages lurking in > the archive, whose sole purpose seems to be to download non-free > software and install it on a users' systems. > > I don't like the fact that these seem to be (randomly) scattered > over main and contrib. Although the installer packages themselves > certainly are Free, I feel the social contract is being violated > when I have main and contrib in my sources.list file, but after > having completed the installation of a package from these sections, > non-free software is installed on my system. > > Here's a quick list of suspected packages: > > vtkdata-installer optional
Installs example reference data. It could probably stay there. > acl-installer contrib/devel > acl-pro-installer contrib/devel > atokx contrib/utils > daemontools-installer contrib/misc > djbdns-installer contrib/net > f-prot-installer contrib/utils Contrib is a perfectly ok place for installers. > flashplugin-nonfree optional This is in contrib! > hyperspec optional Also in contrib! > ibm-jdk1.1-installer contrib/devel > int-fiction-installer contrib/games > lw-per-installer contrib/devel > lw-pro-installer contrib/devel > msttcorefonts contrib/graphics > nvidia-kernel-src contrib/x11 > nvidia-glx-src contrib/x11 > qmailanalog-installer contrib/mail > quake2-data contrib/games > roxen-ssl contrib/web > roxen2-ssl contrib/web > sdic-edict contrib/text > sdic-gene95 contrib/text > setiathome contrib/misc Contrib is a ok place for installers. > realplayer net I can not find this in the archives. > I've not verified all of these being such installer packages for > non-free software, nor do I claim it to be complete. Just to give > you a rough idea. Also, they're of different nature -- some install > the non-free software from their post-installation scripts, while > others install a script in /usr/sbin/ which will do the installation > of the non-free software when run. > > I'd like to submit bugs on these, asking them to move to non-free. > So consider this email an invitation to discussion before a mass-bug > filing. > > If the list agrees that bugs are warranted, which severity should I > use? In my opinion it's a violation of the social contract and thus > serious, but I've been recently told I should probably not use my > own opinion as a justification for using the RC levels, so mayhaps > wishlist would be better? I can not find any bugs in this list. So please do not fine anyone. The contrib section is precisely for free software that depends on non-free (or software outside the archives) to be able to work as expected. Regards, // Ola > -- > Tore Anderson > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- --------------------- Ola Lundqvist --------------------------- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD | | +46 (0)54-10 14 30 +46 (0)70-332 1551 | | http://www.opal.dhs.org UIN/icq: 4912500 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---------------------------------------------------------------