* Don Armstrong > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: >> "post your thoughts in your weblog, come here with patches" > > This is a list which is used to discuss development related issues. > The ability of users to report and discover bugs which affect them is > inextricably linked to development.
Fine, if `thoughts' are `issues'. > As one of the developers of debbugs, I want to encourage discussion of > how things can be done better, even from those who aren't in a > position of having supported their ideas with patches. > > I mean, it'd be rather boring holding this discussion otherwise. IMHO that comes from inflexibility of web based archives at first place, general ignorance WRT mailing lists as from its purpose as from tools misusing points of view. As of our late night conversation you may know my approach to ML information handling, i.e. Gmane + comprehensive new reader (slrn). Some issues with breaking threads in pkg specific MLs and absence of pkg name in the subject in some messages in -dist MLs, i've tried to address, are just very beginning of what can be improved in debbugs, among other things, i try to make working proposal before publishing. And if my recent (less than 24h) similar reply about URLs in the message bodies was read in debbugs list, this thread would not be existed. -*- To the thread: My anger (50% of the original reply) actually caused by general state of software industry. I think time has came, where quantity (of user reports, bug reports, feature requests, number of applications) should finally turn into efficiency. Yet nothing happens and i in Y2006 after year of using Sarge on my amd64 with all that fancy X, Mozilla stuff, have to threw everything away and now nearly for almost year sit in text terminal with small set of tools like, screen, lynx, slrn, mutt, emacs-nox. I sick of ever increasing userspace sucking. After seeing how linux core kernel developers are care for single cache miss, bunch of byte saved, cpu cycle, i just break down from slowness and stupidness of X, Mozilla and such. Finally. I've got a message about being disliked here in list. Guys, my opinion is, that doing this in private is unfair. If i'm out of order, tell me in the follow up. I'll go away, i have nothing to loose in this live, really. p.s. `for.gmane' account will bounce your messages on SMTP time, because i don't care about receiving and deleting stuff i easily can read in ML. I care about network bandwidth, efficiency and other rather unusual things. I reply to messages being with Cc or mail-followup-to with regular account. That's my strong policy on `i read MF list'. Thanks for reading and understanding. ____ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]