* Neil Williams:

>> Yea, devices don't, software packages do...
>
> Nah, we get around that too.
>
> (cdebconf for one)

I must take a look, thanks. Current debconf (depends on perl, not only
perl-base, sigh) is ..., you know.

> Then use busybox to replace adduser.

Tell it to package maintainers, please; i did my small and flexible
solution for that. Flexible, because if i need something from the
package, i just run update with another PATH (without wrapper being in
the first turn).

>> So, as you can see, on any system where this packages{1} were
>> installed or one with /etc/passwd set up by user from its backups or
>> by admin (after fresh install), this 'adduser' content is useless,
>> while dependency may stay.
>
> Nah. Trust me, perl is not needed for any software to be used in
> Emdebian.

That's cool!

> It is vital to Emdebian that perl is removed from 'essential' for
> embedded devices. It's part of rebuilding the dependency chain - you
> can't do that easily with dpkg wrappers, you need to cross-build.
>
> My iPAQ has no hope of running perl and that is a large device as far
> as Emdebian is concerned so there is no option - perl simply MUST
> disappear.
>
> The irony is that emdebian-tools, apt-cross and dpkg-cross are all
> written in perl.
> ;-)

Then it will not disappear ever, especially when shell scripting have
no support at all. Also, i noted broken busybox already.

>> I need a feedback from DDs first, because if dpkg solution is being
>> waited with such hope, then geloiwa is useless.
>
> I expect dpkg filtering to arrive soon.

I didn't see anything in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe they like to develop
something in dark corners and then bring it to the light? Whatever, i've
shared my ideas and implementation not for embedded things, and that's it.

Thanks.
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