On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 09:00:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: [snip] > The main question is: For who's interest should Debian exist, the > upstream authors, the Debian maintainers or the users? My vote is on the > latter :)
I think few argue against Debian being for the users. But the question is, what does our users really want? I honestly never heard the huge outcry from users demanding us to port Debian to the FreeBSD kernel. I'm fairly certain this started out as a project that some of our developers thought would be interesting. Likewise I've never noticed any demand for a Hurd port (and in fact I suspect that even when the Hurd port finally reaches a reasonable state of completion the userbase will be limited to people running it for the novelty factor rather than because it actually provides any real benefit). That said I haven't heard any outcry from users for systemd or upstart either. Point being is that sometimes we as developers need to try to make a judgment on what would serve our users the most. What we do know is that we have a huge userbase of Linux users. I think most people also realise that sysvinit is beginning to really show signs of aging (or rather, that the world around it has developed to a point where it no longer can keep up). systemd and upstart both aim to solve a lot of these issues, and also at least in systemd's case, but I guess this also goes for upstart, to add additional value that hasn't even been an option with sysvinit (socket activation being one thing). Regards, David Weinehall -- /) David Weinehall <t...@debian.org> /) Rime on my window (\ // ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ (/ Beautiful hoar-frost (/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120304102042.ge17...@suiko.acc.umu.se