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On 12/11/14 18:36, Philip Hands wrote: > Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> writes: > >> On 12/11/14 17:47, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 11/12/2014 07:08 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>>> On 12/11/14 11:43, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:04:05AM +0100, Daniel Pocock >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> It is very sad to see that contributors sometimes feel >>>>>> that the only option for them is to resign. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would it be worthwhile giving people another option, for >>>>>> example, allowing a percentage of DDs to formally veto >>>>>> decisions? Would this be better than people leaving >>>>>> outright? >>>>> Can you elaborate which decisions and how many DDs could >>>>> veto them? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't want to be too specific, to give other people a >>>> chance to make suggestions >>>> >>>> However, one possibility is that anybody maintaining an >>>> essential package and anybody who is a DPL delegate would be >>>> able to veto. The implication is that somebody can still win >>>> a GR against the veto, but they do so knowing that they will >>>> have to find somebody else to maintain some essential >>>> packages. >>> >>> I don't agree with filtering the people on what kind of package >>> they maintain, or if they have a role delegated by the DPL. >>> This makes absolutely no sense to me: in what way are they more >>> competent, and why should they have more power than others? >> >> It is not a suggestion that such people are more or less >> competent than anybody else. >> >> Rather, it is a recognition of the fact that if these people are >> going to leave anyway (or are not going to lift a finger to >> support a particular decision, as everybody is a volunteer after >> all) then people proposing the decision need to actively >> demonstrate that they can take on the extra workload that will >> result from getting a decision in their favor. > > Oh, I see. > > You're expecting people proposing GRs to be receptive to rational > argument. > > I fear you've not been paying close attention recently. Well > done. I congratulate you on your wisdom. > If rational argument is not necessary, then I'll propose a GR myself: Debian will give every DD a present of 1 million BTC for Christmas. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUY5ySAAoJEGxlgOd711bEoykP/2ibacRc+firPLXHsYv+BYzJ ahN6RL7GqW0abHXEgqbvQkg6sUOHcU5R0hxRGm0kCYg43hybmPQaLvEkteh3r9Qd 580p5hsQdtuTBHu9mFTeHBHeWKxI7dfqi+Zt5TEfvi/1brFn2rCEkdZXXX6KJkv4 diA4lKJ5MPPBW5ZiEMKLZMM6uF1I0fdkW6jbd3yI6wsxXbzHiH3OBSKFl3mrX6fV 61ByJX+lcsDfCzTOguVGUanbXMQvuA6W4NVGOTqXOSjoXAYxLdgEmjqeCLJYcOx8 8ysEnMH1/SL1jsYOvBq7MX75I7PqCPrMka23I9MsD9AKfJcHqz8tud/YYL6V8E8/ C7ZcthPxJWRVxrW8cNAQVnjp/dYwKSyyKj+iv7KHm1smnv6qS9okJ5t0FO90kJj5 2oVlowNG9UaVDUIeu5MhKIjMb3YAF3S9dK++T9vkMGZfQgextFzrsSoHBbGxasic iwlkK0A0ldo+x/RWoQ4vMcbQvwKuNPJhxrwPcE6JAn/i8fzloXxfeAP6OkBHqbOm GsCjKZyuSWEZGBm0dvb3D+o+ril+Mvsw03jHxqkmfCMmUa/y2uxqj57/km29Osyw nZj4xT5bDEEu9gFaNDBdTVc9IzznfXbIL7h9H3Z+U03wo/IaNIb/0/PMKUW+w7Ny e7ux+oFkalhzB1uua4zt =n+Cj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54639c92.7010...@pocock.pro