On 06/22/2016 06:51 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 05:29:12PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: >> I don't understand this. What about Twitter clients[0], YouTube >> clients[1], Flickr clients[2], and probably clients for many other >> non-free web services?[3] > > If a piece of free software requires, for its essential function, some > server-side software that's non-free, and there's no free > alternatives, then I think that free software belongs in contrib. This > is similar to a game that is free software requiring graphics or music > that's non-free and has no free replacements: the game belongs in > contrib. > > I agree this should be applied fairly across all of Debian. > > We have, for example, the translate-shell package, which seems to > provide an interface to the Google Translate service (which is clearly > non-free). It's in contrib. > > We also have get-ipleyer, which downloads some files from the BBC > iPlayer service. It's in main. I think it should be in contrib. > > Possibly I am in a minority here? >
I am maintainer of mps-youtube which is a CLI to Youtube (doing also some things very convenient such as downloading audio/video in many formats). If its usage of youtube would be decided to go into contrib, I wouldn't mind it at all ("more Free" Debian sounds perfect for me) but I want to point out (imho) some difference here: while the software I maintain streams/downloads data the snappy thing actually downloads and installs system software. I think there should be made a difference between something that is a tool to get data and something that actually changes OS itself. With mps-youtube going to contrib, all web browsers should also go to contrib as they can access Youtube and so on.
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