On Mon, 18 Sep 2017, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 09:22:34AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 01:57:31AM +0100, peter green wrote:
> > > Just because a team isn't big or established doesn't mean they don't need 
> > > a place to discuss issues relating to their activities, some of which do 
> > > not relate to any one particular package. Contributers should be able to 
> > > self-organise within the project and for many dds email is their primary 
> > > means of communication. Sure you can just cc everyone involved but then 
> > > there is no archive and no way for new contributers to jump in.
> > 
> > agreed.
> > 
> > > I find the current proposal to drop alioth mailing lists without a real 
> > > replacement to be a major step backwards.
> >  
> > fully agreed.
> > 
> > However, I also fully understand and support the decision of those who want 
> > to
> > maintain git.debian.org (or whatever the DNS name will be) in future, that
> > they don't want to migrate+run lists.alioth.debian.org as well.
> > 
> > So given all that, I would also applaud other people who want to keep
> > lists.alioth.d.o running. (As one third of all binary packages in main 
> > currently use such an address in the maintainers or uploaders field… (*))
> 
> I am willing to step up to help keep lists.alioth.debian.org running
> as a standalone service using mailman. It seems like it is yet to be
> resolved whether this is a long-term strategic option, but this
> thread demonstrates the many practical reason that we should aim to
> maintain it beyond February 2018. Maintaining the current service
> separated out from Alioth would, it appears, reduce the impact on the
> project of the alioth switch-off considerably. The main requirements/
> issues seem to be:
> 
> - retaining archives (ideally with consistent URLs)
> - retaining the email addresses in many maintainer fields
> - short-term uncertainty about replacements for certain use cases
> 
> I have managed mailman installations for some time so I'm fairly familiar
> with how it works, and have some time from November onwards to work on
> this which I hope would be enough time to develop and implement a migration
> plan. I'm CCing the alioth and DSA teams so they are aware of this.
Do you have infrastructure for running it? 

Alex

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