Hi Sean, On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 11:14 +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: > It's understandable that you'd feel frustrated by what seems like a > misrepresentation of your project's organisation and ethos, but > please try to avoid this sort of rhetoric.
Fancy idea: how about we ask people to *stop* grossly misrepresenting other projects instead? We've had a decade of that about systemd, probably more if one looks at Pulseaudio, GNOME and other things. Eventually we might reach a point where we might want to stop that. Sadly I don't see you asking for that to happen, rather the opposite. > You can just as well present the git statistics without hiding the > author's names for rhetorical effect, or asking rhetorical questions, > and it would keep the temperature of the discussion lower. Okay, then let's just note that sysvinit has an extreme barrier of entry, driving most contributors away. A property it seems to share with dpkg. Thus both aren't a sustainable base to build a community distribution on and we should look at solving that problem, possibly by using community-friendly alternatives instead. Does that help? I tried to write in the helpful style the mail I replied to uses. I skipped stating {sysvinit,dpkg} proponents haven't done their homework, using {sysvinit,dpkg} incurs technical debt, they failed us as community projects, it's impossible to onboard people to them[1], and possibly some other minor points. Ansgar [1]: Of course stating this is fine even when I'm not involved with dpkg or sysvinit, as per the mail I replied to.