Quoting Simon Josefsson (2026-03-02 08:51:24) > Ok, now this become a bit more clear to me. It seems there are two > things at play here: > > 1) Hardware-bound firmware shipped with the physical hardware. > > 2) Supplied firmware provided to the hardware by the operating system.
True, it is possible to subdivide "firmware" into multiple buckets in various ways, one of them being whether it was delivered preinstalled or separately from the hardware it is intended to control. If you read the email thread, I think you will notice that several posts have already indicated that this distinction is not new or surprising. It is great that you are now also aware that such distinction might be relevant to make in some cases, including yours. The interesting issue then becomes how to clearly express when talking about only a subset of firmware, not all firmware. If I really didn't mean that *only* danes are great, then I should not label a danish-targeted Pure Blend as "Debian for great people". The burden is on me to pick a label that is distinct. Similarly, when you mean to label a Pure Blend as targeted uses liberated from firmware-circulated-independently-from-target-hardware, then it is on you to ensure that you are not mislabeling and making the wrong impression that you are covering the wider set of all firmware. It is not acceptable to just pick the term "libre" and assume that Debian users know and agree with FSF exceptional terminology for "libre" and "firmware". - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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