Enrique Zanardi writes ("Re: Release management - technical"): > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 04:21:57PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > I think we can only do one of these. With hamm we're doing the > > latter; in the future I think we should do the former. > > Fine, as long as we have some "long term goals" that must be achieved, > better sooner than later (FHS compliance, for example).
NO! Absolutely not, if you're going to say `must be achieved'. I read `must be achieved' to mean `we will delay the release if these are not achieved'. We are a volunteer organisation, and the last 13 months have shown us that you can't guilt people into doing things. We should continue to have `long term goals', and I applaud people who work towards them, but we must be able to make a release even when they are not met. It is better to have a release now and goals later than no release now and goals later ! David Engel writes ("Re: Release management - technical"): > On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 04:21:57PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Q. What are we trying to achieve ? > > > > A. There are two possibilities that I can see > > - Timely and good-quality releases, or > > - Releases which meet some predefined set of goals. > > > > I think we can only do one of these. With hamm we're doing the > > latter; in the future I think we should do the former. > > I disagree. "Timely and good-quality releases" is just another goal. > What we haven't done been able to do in the past is strike a balance > and have sacrificed timely releases in favor of other goals. I don't see how timely and good-quality releases work against our other goals, per se. What has been happening so far is that we've been saying `Ner! We _shan't_ have a timely release unless we meet these goals, so you _must_ go and work on the goals.' This has FAILED. In future, we should make releases _without regard to long term goals_. Since we have to be incrementally-upgradeable, long term goals can be achieved just as easily out of step with releases. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]