On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > We should continue to have `long term goals', and I applaud people who > work towards them, but we must be able to make a release even when > they are not met. It is better to have a release now and goals later > than no release now and goals later !
and > In future, we should make releases _without regard to long term > goals_. Since we have to be incrementally-upgradeable, long term > goals can be achieved just as easily out of step with releases. i (mostly) agree. debian's upgradeability is one of it's best features, and it is a feature which isn't matched by any other distribution...at least, not to the same extent. i've long believed that debian is a "live" distribution, and the best way to use it is to regularly (i.e. every week or two) upgrade to the latest unstable....this has worked for me for the last few years, and the only time i got "bitten" by a new bug enough to swear about it was when fmirror got upgraded to a bad alpha version and blew away my debian mirror (an expensive mistake at $0.19/megabyte). that's why i think we should have monthly untested snapshot CDs of unstable as well as regular tested official releases....so that those who don't have good net connections can benefit from debian's live nature. anyway, what i really wanted to say here was that sometimes releases do have to be delayed to meet some goals. i think that the upgrade to libc6 was one of them (but i think hamm met that goal around August or September last year, and could have been released anytime after that). I suspect that another such goal will be PAM....it doesn't do much good to have half a PAM-enabled system. For PAM, we need all the typical login authentication stuff linked against PAM and we also need PAMified versions of sendmail, smail, etc so that mail can be delivered for users who only exist in a radius or LDAP directory and not in /etc/passwd. craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
