Hi, >>"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> ae is an adequate minimal no-frills, no-features text editor. Bingo. That is what we absolutely need -- the rest of the features are what you just said -- frills. Craig> it's better than cat. it's even better than pico (which isn't Craig> hard). it's no substitute for vi. Opinions. Anything, IMHO, is better than vi ;-) >> > being restricted to a primitive editor after you have become >> > proficient with vi is akin to re-learning how to talk after having a >> > stroke.. >> >> Ahem. vi non-primitive heh-heh-heh. Craig> yes, vi IS non-primitive. do not mock what you fail to understand. Oh, I understand vi. I have been using it for 12 years now. I just find it incredibly primitive. We do seem to be trading opinions in this thread, so I just added mine. Or is it that only some people can flaunt their opinions, and dissenters can't? >> Are vi users less capable, or more inflexible, than users of better >> editors? I think you are doing vi users a dissservice, labeling them >> so incapable and unadapting. Craig> no, vi users are not less capable or more inflexible (and there are Craig> no better editors -- emacs is not a text editor, it's a programmable Craig> editing environment. if you like that kind of thing then more power to Craig> you...but emacs is also no substitute for vi). Craig> i thought i explained it well enough. vi is the sort of tool that when Craig> you get good at it becomes like an extension of your thoughts - you Craig> don't have to consciously think about HOW to do something, you just Craig> think about WHAT you want to do and it happens. Yes. And in a full fledged system you should probably have access to this paragon of productivity. However, we are talking about impaired systems, where everyone has to settle for less. Craig> this doesn't mean that vi users are less flexible or less Craig> capable. I seem to only hear them complaining. I used occams razor to decide what the reason could be. Craig> it means that trying to use some other less capable editor is like Craig> trying to edit with one hand tied behind your back and three fingers of Craig> your remaining hand chopped off. you can do so much more with vi that Craig> anything less is a major handicap. The same could be said of XEmacs. Unfortunately, this is an impaired system we are talking about. Craig> i fail to see any further point in this thread. it's gone on way too Craig> long already. the fact is that vi is a basic unix tool which should Craig> be available....not providing it on the rescue disk when we can do so Craig> would be absurdly laughable if it weren't so outrageously blinkered and Craig> pedestrian. I see. >> Anyway, every one knows that vi is primitive ;-) Craig> i expected better of you than pointless cheap shots like this. guess i Craig> was mistaken. I see that your cool has not been the sole victim of this thread. Your sense of humour has died too. (You do know what a smiley means, don't you?) manoj who has not had a good editor war in years -- To find a friend one must close one eye; to keep him -- two. Norman Douglas Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E