Well, Jedd, I'm coming to agree with you.
Clearly Knoppix and Debian are different.
And clearly, it's mixing the two that causes problems.
This was not evident to me while I was poking around
for a good way to move from RH to Debian.. Maybe
Knoppix should say so, huh?

But right now, I'd really like to find the source
of the particular problem...

I have managed to "downgrade" my xlibs, xlibs-dev, xlibs-pic
to a non-Knoppix experimental version, fix a few problems
left concerning links to libXrender(.la .so etc) 
and have compiled my kdelibs successfully - v. 4.3.0-pre1v4.

I installed the 4 new debs I got from dpkg -b, but
it didn't fix the original problem which was the crashing
of several KDE apps, all with this in the backtrace:

...0x41028bb8 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#0  0x41028bb8 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x406e8c10 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#2  0x40647f1c in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#3  0x00000168 in ?? ()

So, I guess it wasn't libkdecore. 
Must be libpthread.so.0, right?
How do I find out what package provides libpthread?

tnx,
j.

----- Original Message -----

> On Wed December 10 2003 12:46 pm, jerry garcia wrote:
>  ] I fail to understand this.
>  ] After running apt-get dist-upgrade
>  ] what is the difference between a knoppix install and a debian-sid/sarge 
>  ] install? (other then avoiding the pain of a debian woody install?)
> 
>  This thread exists because what you describe (and what the earlier
>  user has done) does not actually result in a Debian installation.
> 
>  If you spend some time in #debian you'd get a feel for the kind of
>  bizarre problems that knoppix users experience when they make the
>  mistake of thinking these two things are the same.  Knoppix and
>  Debian are both beautiful things - but the same things, they are not.
> 
>  Jedd.
> 
> 
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