I meant that most normal users use "debian stable (mostly for servers) and debian testing (mostly for desktops) " Why can't we have always latest version of linux kernel on for example debian testing and focus on updating it I belive kernel developers know what they do and for the most parts the kernel should be actually pretty stable after all. And yeah most distros fe . Ubuntu follow Debian structure (they are actually copying it) so if this will happen in debian we will see newest kernel in most other distros as well . So I belive it the kernel stable should actually be in atleast debian testing (NOT IN EXPERIMENTAL) Software developers encourage people to always use latest stable software of their's I belive this should be the case here as well...
2013/11/28 Piotr Walaszczyk <[email protected]>: > I meant that most normal users use "debian stable (mostly for servers) > and debian testing (mostly for desktops) " Why can't we have always > latest version of linux kernel on for example debian testing and focus > on updating it I belive kernel developers know what they do and for > the most parts the kernel should be actually pretty stable after all. > And yeah most distros fe . Ubuntu follow Debian structure (they are > actually copying it) so if this will happen in debian we will see > newest kernel in most other distros as well . > So I belive it the kernel stable should actually be in atleast debian > testing (NOT IN EXPERIMENTAL) Software developers encourage people to > always use latest stable software of their's I belive this should be > the case here as well... > > 2013/11/20 Ian Campbell <[email protected]>: >> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 14:08 +0100, Piotr Walaszczyk wrote: >>> Which creates a question wouldnt it be better to actually use latest >>> linux kernel on debian stable >> >> Stable in both context means, roughly, "only accepting bug fixes". The >> idea being that things will only get better and the risk of regressions >> is low. It also doesn't necessarily mean "bug free" but rather "bugs are >> known". >> >> This is the case when moving between Linux versions, which all have >> buckets of new and potentially unproven code. >> >> If you want to use a newer kernel on stable Debian then you can use the >> kernels from backports. >> >>> (because that's what actually most >>> "normal" users use) >> >> Your premise here is flawed. Most "normal" users use distro kernels >> which for the most part follow a similar strategy to Debian. >> >>> and update it so it doesn't have these regressions >>> ? >> >> We take a reasonably current kernel at the time Debian freezes and >> follow the stable branch associated with that release. >> >> Ian. >> >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/19 Ben Hutchings <[email protected]>: >>> > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 01:37 +0100, Piotr Walaszczyk wrote: >>> >> Does it means that stable linux kernel is not actually stable and is >>> >> full of bugs/crashes?? >>> > >>> > A 'stable release' means a version that will be supported for some time >>> > with only relatively small changes (Debian: point releases; Linux: >>> > stable updates). It has nothing to do with whether the software >>> > crashes. >>> > >>> > A Linux stable release usually does include lots of regressions which >>> > are mostly fixed by stable updates. >>> > >>> > Ben. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Ben Hutchings >>> > Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] >> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected] >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFrYZiPZ8=AMvz=jt89punwb4dr+cb9vtpfcyxedtq6uhps...@mail.gmail.com
