>From: Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> >You know, I think we've been looking at this wrong.
>Saying "you can't relicense" is just wrong. [...] I don't how it works in Australia, but you apparently have no idea how the Title 17 (the US copyright laws) read in the United States. "License" is not a completely well defined term, and, more importantly, it is not a legislated system by which you can directly get the courts to enforce something. The fact that you see that terminology widely used does not change that. Copyright owners of many persuasions like the term because it suggests a broader monopoly that copyright actually conveys. A good book that covers this issue is _The Nature Of Copyright: A Law Of Users Rights_ by L. Ray Patterson and Stanley W. Lindberg. It is, I believe, the only text endorsed by Robert W. Kastenmeier, the then-chairman of the house committee on intellectual property who presided over the drafting of the 1976 Copyright Act. If you write copyright permissions and call it a "license", the courts may interpret it as a unilateral grant of permissions related to *your* copyright interests only, and (more likely) they may interpret it the offer phase of the formation of a contract. Ask yourself this, if somebody violates the "license", what law creates the private right action by which you could sue them to enforce it?!? When you think about this, you'll realize that you're actually talking about either copyright infringement (title 17) or breach of contract (state law in the US, mostly the Uniform Commercial Code). If you reply further, please identify who would have the right to sue whom if the "license" were violated, and based, roughly, on what law. I am not a lawyer, so please do not rely on this as legal advice. >> Your right to copy a piece of content comes from the >> permissions granted to you by the owners of its copyrights, not by >> intermediaries who have no actual copyright interest or authorization >> to act as an agent for the copyright owners. > >That's only true if the original copyright holders didn't specifically >give you permission to sublicense in their copyright license though... What actual legal act are you referring to when you say "sublicense?" Are you talking about forming a binding contract? Are you talking about granting permissions with respect to your own copyright? Are you are talking about having some limited power of attorney with respect to copyrights that are not yours? If you claim that "sublicense" as it would apply to copyright is a term precisely defined in the law, tell me where. If you visit http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses, and look at the list of GPL compatible "licenses", and click on the link labelled "The X11 license", you will notice that the word "sublicense" DOES NOT APPEAR in the X11 license, and the FSF gets very good legal advice. I know that one person who provides legal advice to them is a law professor at Columbia University. Adam J. Richter __ ______________ 4880 Stevens Creek Blvd, Suite 104 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / San Jose, California 95129-1034 +1 408 261-6630 | g g d r a s i l United States of America fax +1 408 261-6631 "Free Software For The Rest Of Us."