--- Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > the claim that Debian can be downloaded is a simple statement > of fact which just happens to be true as a byproduct of the way > we create Debian, it is not a promise.
If I can't trust what I can read on Debian.org, then I'll stop using Debian GNU/Linux as soon as I'll find a convenient replacement. If I can't trust you. then... I can't trust you. > people should have the freedom to make a derivative > version of Debian *without* providing downloads This is *not* a derivative. This is still labeled "Debian Sarge". Derivatives are: Ubuntu, MEPIS, Knoppix, dozens of others. Derivatives do *not* carry the name of Debian. It is *not* "Debian MEPIS", it's "MEPIS". Too bad that the moist important GNU/Linux project and the most important GNU/Linux community can't afford a good lawyer to explain you how to protect your mark. Like Henning Makholm said, it's better not having me as a user of your work. A last answer to Andreas Barth, which said: "Who are you, and how do you judge what is proper use of Debian's trademarks and what not?" I'm the customer, being it a customer of a free product. If I'm a customer of Mercedes Benz, and I notice that a modified car is still labeled "Mercedes" (and *not* "Ssang Yong, powered by Mercedes engines", but simply "Mercedes"), I'm affected that Mercedes doesn't care about that. And I'd stop using/buying from Mercedes, as long as they don't care to protect their mark. For God's sake, it's labeled "Debian Sarge", dammit! R-C F ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]