On Sunday 03 January 2010 09:52:04 am Francesco Poli wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:28:32 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: > > > [dropping pkg-boinc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org as I don't think they > > care about this...] > > [Yes, I agree.] > [Please also avoid Cc:ing me, since I am subscribed to debian-legal...]
Noted... though, my mail client handles such things. > [While you are at it, could you please set a sane wrap value? Long > lines in your e-mail messages are unpractical to read on web archives > and to reply to...] The archive looks fine [1], and in my experience more mail clients prefer to wrap on their own than my client doing it for them. Yes, this is a particular problem with Outlook... and yes, that's what most of the recipients of my email use. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-legal@lists.debian.org/msg40546.html > > On Saturday 02 January 2010 10:38:52 am Francesco Poli wrote: > [...] > > > I re-iterate: how can policy or practice be refined or discussed, if > > > *any* disagreement is banned from Debian mailing lists? > > > > > > Moreover, in the present case, I think that I honestly stated that the > > > DFSG-freeness of choice of venue clauses is controversial and then I > > > provided my own personal opinion, *explicitly* labeling it as such. > > > I don't remember any clear decision by the Debian Project on this > > > matter, otherwise I would have cited it (as I often do with the GR on > > > the GFDL, for instance). > > > > The problem with this line of argument is that it sounds very similar > > to the climate skeptics / intelligent design crowd. The approach seems > > to be, "continue to inject controversy even when there is community > > consensus, in hopes of giving the appearance of true division." > > I don't think this comparison is fair. > IMHO, there's much more uncertainty in DFSG interpretation and license > clause effect prediction, than in validation of scientific theories. > > Also, my goal is not to "inject controversy". > I just express my opinion, in the sincere hope that it can help in > enhancing Debian. When decision-makers disagree with me, I still hope > I can persuade them to change their minds. Whenever I am *aware* that > my opinion is not in line with the official position of the Debian > Project, I try to explicitly point this out. I hear what you're saying, and I sympathize with your plight. Changing minds in Debian is a hurculean task. But the dude asking the question wasn't a Debian decision-maker, he was just some guy asking about the DFSG-ness of a license as applied to a particular piece of software. I my opinion, the mailing list should provide him as direct and politics-free answer as possible. At least, that's what I would want to receive if I had asked the question. -Sean -- Sean Kellogg e: skell...@probonogeek.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
